OK.

That's three non-participating participants.

Don't post around me.

Just don't post.

I still have unanswered questions for those who are following this thread.

1) Which of the following NON CHRISTIAN men was NOT a man of God? Moses, Noah, David, Solomon, Jacob or Adam?

2) Can you name an example of a Godly Man in today's society?

3) Who said that I was a Christian?

Can ANYONE respond to those?

My issue with Fred is the fact that he is:

1) not accurate in his explanations. He is simply providing some untrue information, most blaring in my mind is Jesus founding Christianity. That is simply not true.

2) dismissive of other viewpoints before even seeking clarification. How would you like for your Doctor to diagnose you without even asking you your symptom? Would he even be able to write you an effective prescription? A TRUE Spiritual Counselor would not act in this manner. His unwavering stance castrates the effectiveness his words could have on me and many, many others (especially the ones who've PM'ed me because of this thread) who want to understand, as I do. I've asked y'all to post the full scripture, He won't. Those coming from a background that is not Christian will have a hard time supporting or endorsing statements that they themselves can't substantiate.

3) the first to make subtle sly sideways comments in this thread. Or have some of y'all missed those? He's made several statements to bait me into veering off course. He roped Tom in. YES, the things I say may ruffle feathers, check the signature. At least I gave everyone fair warning. It's been mentioned that someone may have a "personal relationship with a false god" and I've never mentioned which God I worship. It's also been mentioned that someone shares viewpoints with the Devil. Well don't we all, in his effort to overthrow the Kingdom of God he knows the Word better than any Man of God would. That's how he can cause believers to veer off track.

4) claiming Christ but not acting Christ like. It seems that HIS mission has replaced God's mission for him. This may be in part to my views on how he addressed people and issues in other threads. For example:

In this thread he mentions that he's acquired a few rituals. Why would a fully annointed Man of God need to pilfer through the private and closely guarded documents of Greek Letter Organizations in order to enlighten others? I spoke on that here

He seems to avoid answering my questions in almost every thread even though I answer his.

He's attacked others who responded to the original topic of a thread, thereby veering it off course.

He doesn't explain anything here he always want you to go some where else to read his views. Why can't he state his point here. I don't want to have to search the web to find supporting documentation for someone else's opinion.

I, sincerely, hope that the others of you, who have been reading in silence, will step in and respond TO THE SUBJECT at hand. Which is what is your definition of a Man of God. The purpose of a conversation is to come to an understanding and not an agreement.