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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
What proof do you have that Iraq ceased to be genocidal in the 80s?
I'll give you some proof to show that you are (again) wrong, and that I am right: http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/01/iraq012503.htm
They were actively engaged in a genocide against the Marsh Arabs very recently.
Iraq did step up activities to destabilize the region after 9-11. If you want to believe your left wing propaganda that they had a wonderful government, that's your right.
And don't be so myopic as to expect the desired results in a year. That type of expectation is absurd. It will take time, but there would have been no acceptable type of stability with the status quo. I'm sorry to rain on your love-fest with Sadaam.
Are all Canadians this ignorant? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Are all Americans this belligerant? Inquiring minds want to know...
Okay I'm sorry I was using the conventional defenition of genocide... what Sadam was doing to the Marsh Arabs should be called "Ethnic Cleansing"... if it was genocide they would try to drive them out, they'd just kill them. Yes it's horrible, but words such as genocide shoudn't be used so liberally by either side for the shock value.
Okay I asked for examples of Iraq's active efforts to destablize the region.. not the Rumsfeld told me so argument... after-all I could just as easily accuse you of falling for "right-wing" propoganda (you know WMD, Al Queda connection, greeted with open arms, out in a year.. stuff like that). But no I don't believe that they had a wonderful government, and know I'm not a "Sadam-lover", but it is important to realize that evil men will fight to stay on top, and while that's shitty for "good" or innocent people, it also means that other "evil" people are viewed as a threat too.
No I didn't expect results in a year, but the level of terrorism has risen... to I believe record levels? If religious fanaticism can be viewed as the root cause for much of this terrorism, then removing a significant opponent of it (whatever his motivations) will undoubtedly lead to a rise in this fanaticism as power vacuums are filled. It is a very real risk that the Iraq war could spawn more terror groups or new strongmen in the region (if not Iraq). If you look beyond the polls on whether or not the Iraqi's love or hate the US, and look at the percentages of Iraqi's demand security, then you see the threat of them following whomever provides them with this "security". Now we have the newly appointed leader of Iraq, a former CIA operative who engaged in "insurrgent activities" against Sadam saying that he will clamp down and restore security by whatever means are neccesary...