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Originally posted by KSig RC
um . . .you're falling into the fallacy of the 'grinder' . . . gordon, as overexposed as he is, has a pretty solid track record. His knowledge of the game, furthermore, is top-tier - while he's not exactly the Doyle, I'd put his actual game ahead of pure theorists like Malmuth.
Paul Philips, for being a huge douche, well . . . he's put together some serious WPT events . . . I guess I might put more stock into that than others.
Anyway, don't let those two's money cloud your vision of their game - esp w/ Gordon. He's put in his time.
Now, why does no one ever hold this against barry greenstein, who is nearly as wealthy?
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Paul Philips has gotten better, I'll give you that. But Phil Gordon? No way. Did you watch him in either WPT event? He had no idea at all about what he was doing. He must have played pretty well in the last event because he came in with a substantial chip lead, but he was totally floundering. He only won because he got lucky. He didn't win a hand for a very long time at the final table, at least according to Vince and Mike (unless he did and it wasn't shown on tv). In my opinion, Moneymaker was much better at that table. Greenstein is a good player, that's why no one ever says anything about his money. He obviously has a lot more experience playing. Once Paul and Phil get more experience under their belts, I'm sure they'll get better.
Btw, how is Gordon overexposed? They never show him on tv like they show Lederer and Helmuth. I think he's on some celebrity poker show, but we all know that those shows are about the celebrities, not the poker. I don't know a poker player that can stand watching them.
But none of this bad stuff is clouding my vision of the game. I am a huge poker fan, and I play every week. I am a big lurker at rec.gambling.poker, and my husband wins lots of money online too, so I have a great vision of poker.
eta mu_agd, celebrity poker is similar only in that they play the same game, no limit texas hold'em. It's so much better though because it's professional poker players, so they actually know what they are doing. And since poker is getting more publicity and becoming mainstream, many of those players are in their own way becoming celebrities too. I suggest you check it out. WPT is on every Wed at 9pm on the Travel Channel, and the WSOP will begin showing on ESPN in July, but they won't show the main hold'em event until Sept.