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Old 06-08-2004, 03:11 AM
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Good, logical points from both of you. I'm pro-life, and here are some of my humble opinions. First of all, I'd like to say, just because I'm pro-life does not mean I'm judging anyone about their views on abortion, or even if they've had abortions themselves. I would never presume to be better than anyone, and I certainly am in no position to judge anyone else for their actions. So here are my opinions on the matter:

Also, I have posted a very similiar thread like this in other forums on abortion, so if you've read it before, don't be mad.

I'm pro-life and feel that abortion should be outlawed except for the cases of rape, incest, and valid health problems. Fortunately, I'm a man, so I don't ever have to be in this situation personally, but I do plan to marry and have a family, so (God-forbid) something like this ever happened, who knows what I would do. Hopefully I would trust in God and be strong.

First, AXJules, I know a lady who was happily married and was raped by an intruder. This woman conceived a child, and decided to keep it, even under the awful circumstances. Also, this woman was happily married and was raped by someone of a different race than she, so it would be obvious to everyone that this was not her husband's child, and everyone that knew about the rape would know that this child was a result of it. Still, in the face of extreme hardship, this woman trusted in God, and knew that her baby was a human being, had been conceived for a purpose, and that it was not her baby's fault that she had been raped. She had the child, and the girl grew up to be smart, loving, talented, and beautiful. I'm sure if you asked this girl "Would you rather be alive, even though you don't know your biological father, and even though you know the horrible situation, or would you have rather your mother aborted you?" This girl knows that she is blessed and is thankful her mother kept her and spared her life, even in the hardest of situations.
I also know many children who have been adopted, and know no knowledge of their parental history. They too, are happy to be alive, inspite of the hardship of not knowing their biological parents.

On the health issue, as I've already stated, I'm not for outlawing abortions in valid health situations. I do however, would like to give more real-life examples. One of them, is my mother and myself and brothers. I'm a quadruplet. I was born in 1983. This was a monumental health risk to my mother, and statistically and medically proposed monumental risks to myself and my 3 brothers. Mom trusted in God, and did not have any abortions, even though many health-care proffesionals advised her to. We all turned out fine, and I'm thankful everyday that they chose to keep us alive. God really took care of us.


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Originally posted by AXJules
Ok, very interesting points and a pretty logical argument. ( I consider myself pro-choice.)

I have two questions for you:
1) I realize that the majority of abortions aren't from violent rapes, but let's say a woman gets an intruder in her house, and he rapes her. That kid is spawned out of an act of hatred, first of all, which sucks for the kid. He's going to grow up either a) raised without his biological father or b) adopted, but either way with NO KNOWLEDGE of his paternal health history. How is that ok? A lot of times there are medical things you need to know about in your background that that kid has no way of knowing.

2) You said abortions happen for selfish reasons, which I would probably agree with. What if a woman is told that she will almost certainly die if she carries the baby...you still think that's ok? I mean, ok yeah that is selfish, but if she dies during the pregnancy than the child probably will too. Or if she or the baby is guaranteed to die during delivery....I guess I just don't see how you could justify that as not a reason for an abortion.

(Hope you see this post as just curious questions, no flames )
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