Hey Celestial,
I didn't meant to make it seem like I was attacking you. That wasn't my intent. However, when I see words like "higher" or "lower" used to classify relationships, it seems to me that you're making a value judgement whether you like it or not. Binary oppositions like "higher/lower", "black/white", "good/bad" "natural/unnatural" only serve to keep a system of supremacy in place, whether it be racial supremacy, cultural supremacy, or heterosexism. When a paradigm is reduced to an "either/or" proposition, it's always a prejudicial choice between what you prefer and what you don't. Like you, I believe in the completeness of things, but I don't believe things have to be exclusionary to be complete. I've tried in my life to get out of the "either/or" mindset and to embrace a "both-and" way of thinking.
It's okay to be conflicted on the issue. Like I said, you don't even have to like gay people or what they do. But to somehow think that they're "base" or "succumbing to a lower nature" is perjorative and denies them their basic humanity. Gay people aren't
only what they do in bed. They're people, first and foremost.
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Originally posted by CelestialBlu1:
i was not using procreation to undermine the validity of homosexual relations...which have probably gone on since the dawn of time...i believe i stated that the act serves the lower nature...the instinctive desire to fullfill a sexual need...and if allowed to rule you will...in my opinion inhibit spiritual progress...and result in incompletion...as opposed to completion that is derived from the union of male and female...and as such is not "wrong"...but is regressive instead of progressive...in my opinion...so thinking from the perspective of evaluating the natural order of life...male and female...positive and negative...light and dark...sun and moon...opposite forces that push life forward instead of backwards...that is my rationale...but again...i do NOT feel that homosexuals are "sinning" and are wrong for choosing the partners they choose...it is my personal philosophy in observing life...and i believe i also prefaced my remark "i am CONFLICTED on the issue..."
[This message has been edited by CelestialBlu1 (edited July 06, 2001).]
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