[decadence]

RAVEGIRL, to address your points, leaving aside for a moment the issue that not everyone on the site is not necessarily Greek, you seem to be suggesting that brothers and sisters of fraternal organizations do not condemn these sort of behaviors. I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion.

Hazing is outlawed by every national organization to my knowledge, it is almost universally condemned but yes, a few renegade chapters do reflect on the overall Greek image - with tragic consequences for the individuals put at risk.

It would be irresponsible not to comment that there are two sides to every story, that what we hear about in the media isn't necessarily an accurate portrayal.

Though I hasten to add in this case there seems little doubt that the actions of these supposed 'fraternity men' led to the deaths of these students.

I'm not saying this site is necessarily representative of people in fraternities but please do not assume that fraternities offer great benefits but at a terrible price.

The actions of a small number of individuals are widely condemned, should not be allowed to continue and should be worked on through education and/or closure of fraternity or sorority chapters who clearly show they do not deserve to carry the title "brother".

My thoughts are with the families of the pledges who died.