[Kevin]

Rave, I'm not trying to come down on you in any way, so if you feel like I'm attacking you, I'm not.

But it's apparent that you haven't read very many of these threads in the risk management area. Truthfully, hazing is becoming less and less a part of Greek Life. When you read about it in the paper, that is the exception, not the rule.

I personally wish that hazing cases were always prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. In fraternities, even the chapters full of members that do obey the law have to pay for idiots such as the ones in the originating post of this thread by way of insurance premiums. Most of us here agree that hazing is wrong. The vast majority of us never were. I know as a founder of my chapter, that if I ever find out about even a hint of hazing in my chapter, I won't rest until the hazers have been removed from the organization -- I did it once when we were a colony, I'd have no problems doing it again.

Most of us have ZERO tolerance for these kinds of things. The reason that we're not all railing on about this one is that everyone knows where everyone else stands -- and nearly all of us would jump at the chance to testify for the prosecution in this case if asked.