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Old 05-25-2004, 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by preciousjeni
Wait, did I say "kissing prior to marriage is per se forbidden in Bible because it is listful activity" or did I say "you really aren't supposed to engage in any lustful activities before marriage." There's a big difference. I said exactly what I meant. If you cannot separate the lust from the act, then don't do it. And, if kissing is lustful for you then it IS a sin.
Chill, please. In your first post on the subject, you said: "Actually, according to the Holy Bible, you really aren't supposed to engage in any lustful activities before marriage, including kissing." In your second post on the subject, you said: "So, if you cannot separate kissing from sexual lust, then it is forbidden." As I said in my post, these seem like two different statements to me. While you very well may have meant them to mean the same thing, I think the first statement can fairly be read to say that kissing before marriage is per se lustful activity, which I don't think can be found anywhere in the Bible. That was my only point (and is why I asked for a citation to the first statement).

And I really don't think I am splitting hairs to suggest that the words fornication and adultery have specific definitions.

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ETA: Song of Solomon is for MARRIED COUPLES. It equates marriage between humans to marriage between humans and God
Okay, aside from the fact that the Song of Solomon reference was meant as a light-hearted aside, the interpretation that it is for married couples or that it is about the relationship between God and humanity are certainly reasonable interpretations, but they are not the only widely-accepted interpretations. Jewish and Christian scholars of all stripes -- conservative, liberal, whatever -- agree that the Song is not necessarily about a married couple. No where in the text is any mention of marriage made, and of course when it was written, a man of prestige would not only have had a number of wives but also a lot of concubines -- hundreds in Solomon's case.

FWIW, I'm pretty much with you on the idea that some behavior is only appropriate within marriage, but I don't think anyone could pick that kind of idea up from Song of Solomon. The Song of Solomon is about love and desire, and how they are to be celebrated as part of the good creation. For guidance on the appropriate bounds of such celebration, one must look elsewhere.

Thus endeth my sermon for today.
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