[33girl]

If you run an establishment large enough that you have a "stack of fakes" at the end of the night, perhaps you need more people at the door carding. I'm not sure what other states do, but we card at the door - are you saying there are places where you get carded when you actually order the drink??? I bitch about PA's liquor laws, but this sounds like one where we are on the right track.

ETA that here if you aren't 21, you can't even ENTER a bar. You can go to someplace like TGIFriday's, but a lot of those prevent underagers from being in certain areas at certain times when the atmosphere becomes more club-like.

And perhaps the bar owners should lobby for law that imposes a bigger penalty on underagers rather than tying up the court system. I agree that the dichotomy between the two is a bit much, especially in CA where 16 year old movie stars can go to the bar.