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Originally posted by decadence
Thank you MysticCat81, for clearing that up for me too.
I'd wondered for a long time what Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia members as the org is social but had been professional thought about the fact its rituals would have been public when it had professional status and was a member of the PFA but when they changed to social status and became part of the NIC again the rituals would have been made secret... but there would still be copies out there.
It was all a bit confusing and I got very mixed up over the details as you can see! 
Now I know they were and are a member of the PFA, never NIC and that their rituals were always secret. Think I got that right?
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Yes, you do. I'll do the best I can without too much detail.
We were founded as a social fraternity, veered into the arena of professional fraternity and eventually so described ourselves (say in the 60's and 70's), and then in the 80's made the decision to reject "professional" designation and return to our founding as a social fraternity.
Nevertheless, we were one of the founders of the PFA and are still a member of the PFA, figuring it is better to be a member of some umbrella organization rather than none, and the PFA membership requirement is broad enough to encompass social fraternities with a special interest (like music).
My understanding is that there has been quite a bit of discussion nationally about what kind of umbrella organzation we should be part of and what we should do about our PFA affiliation, but I really can't tell you what the current status of that discussion is. So far, we have not sought membership in the NIC, although many chapters have joined their campus IFCs.
But our ritual has always been secret.