[Betarulz!]

Kelly, No O of O is not associated with hazing anywhere.

What they are saying is that O of O and TNE at some schools recruit the same types of people, the greek leaders. At your school the invitations for O of O are done after sorting through the apps. TNE does it on an informal basis though, but it is still through an invitation.

As for TNE, I've posted about it before here. At Nebraska - as far as I have heard - you do have to divulge all the secrets of your own GLO...not sure about the beating. I do know that for the Secret Scrollers Society (SSS) a group nearly identicle to TNE here at Nebraska, a refusal to join them, only causes them to smear your name...through their semesterly newsletter.

TNE (and SSS) exist sub-rosa here, and only show up once or twice a year, printing off a newsletter that rips on the greek system, however each newletter is pretty much the same, picking on each house b/c of their stereotypes, naming several girls as sluts, several guys as closet homosexuals, and making fun of others for whatever other reasons. On the whole, while they claim to exist to improve the Greek system by pointing out its flaws, the people they tend to exalt are the guys who can drink the most, are able to get on the most girls, and the very hot girls who party a lot, and girls that aren't sluts yet still give it up on a regular basis.

Usually the newsletters are funny, and while i read them, after three years of seeing them, they are getting very cliched. Some people tend to take them too seriously, but there's really no harm except to the egos of the few they choose to target and those that let it get to them.