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Originally posted by HederaNaturale
I think there might be some veeeeeery subtle differences between what defines hazing officially, considering the "order of operations" that different governing bodies have. For example, on my way back to my dorm, I see one of my friends standing outside in the DARK next to a dumpster with six boxes of Krispy Kreme douhgnuts, and I'm like what in the WORLD are you doing? He says he's pledging a frat, and that they have to sell these doughnuts before the end of the night... all the pledges are scattered around campus in CRAZY locations, begging people to buy doughnuts so they can go back home. This was a pretty open and public thing, everyone saw them, so I'm guessing that isn't defined as hazing for that frat. Having pledge classes "public and out in the open" leaves a lot of things open to interpretation as far as what a chapter can be called to account on. For the most part, hazing is a cut and dry matter, but I think there *are* a lot of subtleties between what's acceptable and not officially or even locally.

not quite sure I said what I really meant to say there.. it's been a long day and i'm not thinking all that clearly

That is definitely hazing.