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more on jucos
I do not purport to badmouth the community college or the
movement of the junior colleges...often high school extensions
who got some state monies and began to build empires.
These institutions, however, do not lend themselves to the NIC
type fraternity. But, have at it, give charters as you see fit. I am
simply saying that it is a different institution altogether, and like
the technical schools...everyone seems to be out of breath about
"degrees" You can buy all kinds of degrees, all the way to the
fake PhD. The Universities of Phoenix and their ilk are a far cry from the typical institutions we discuss on Greek Chat. You can get a Master's in Air Conditioning. You can get a bachelor's from
Ringling Bros Clown School in FL (Phi Delt chartered here!). We
have ventured far from the old ivied campus and Mr. Chips. But
we are talking apples and oranges.
I enabled many to get mobility, say in law enforcement, while I was the Dean of Instruction at a Community College in Kansas.
I helped recruit athletes. I developed credit and non-credit courses, transferable ones and some not. This is not to say any
of these people were stupid or inferior. It was simply a different
means of continuing education--offered to a wider clientele.
I will say, as a faculty member of both a Big 10 and a Big 8 U that
the night courses and extension ones did NOT have the stringent
expectations...politics, funding, growth, all played a part in these
and we were (and are yet) hypocrites simply trying to survive.
There is a radical difference between a bachelor's in Spanish at
the old teachers' college and the same at Yale...you know that.
The extensions in PA you refer to are now 4-year ones. TKE has
a chapter at Behrend. But it is a helleva far cry from Penn State
at State College. History of fraternities has been broached in
previous postings. The system has undergone a face lift and
Delta Psi (St. A), KA Society, Zete, Delta Phi etc...some of the conservative old line NICs have seen much change. Some of
them have gone co-ed, some simply died, and some are hanging
on. But the Greek Site here...generally...deals with the fraternity
with a house, perhaps not, but with a traditional perspective.
Let us not get all bent out of shape over these matters, they are
vastly different...the juco from the U....
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