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Old 04-29-2004, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by pirepresent
as for the quote above, this is going to come out wrong, and i'm sorry but this too is my truth. i hate when people bring the word "selfish" into this kind of decision. if you want to talk about selfishness, talk about pro-lifers imposing their morality onto other people's bodies and lives. for many pro-lifers, it's not about the mother OR the child - it's about them, and their beliefs being the "correct" ones. Just because YOU think it's the right decision for you and the people you know doesn't mean it's right for everyone.
i understand what you're saying, so don't think it came out wrong.

i speak what i do b/c it is actually based on experience with the issue. no, i have not had an abortion, but ppl VERY close to me have. and as much as i totally, completely, 10000000% understood where they were coming from, bottom line, it was primarily looking out for their best interest.

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Originally posted by pirepresent
i dont mean to come off rude, but this is an extremely sensitive issue for me. so many pro lifers are living healthy, happy lives and never see what it's like for people who are poor and impoverished, who are uneducated about or who can't afford birth control and definetly can't afford to support a child. it's easy for people to sit and preach about morality when they don't have to live through something like this, or have to see the results.
and yeah.......not everyone knows what it is like to be impoverished, or to not be able to afford birth control, or whatever other excuse ppl come up with for having an abortion.....but just b/c you are impoverished or uneducated or whatever doesn't mean ya don't know what abstinance is. honestly, how much of a genius does it take to think, "hmm...no condom/birth control, no sex" OR how much common sense does it take to understand the consequences of an action that COULD result in a pregnany?! but again, no one wants to accept their consequences or take responsibility. if you can't afford to have the baby, put it up for adoption. other than self-defense, there is no excuse for murder. i'm sorry but this is a sensitive subject with me, too, b/c a would-be member of MY family was taken away from us.....and no matter what her excuse, it still hurts......all of us. i'm not trying to push "my" morals on anyone, i am trying to stand up for those who can't stand up for themselves.

Just because YOU think it's the right decision for you and the people you know doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

i quote this again b/c i stand by my own quote in that being pro-life is about the child....and what is best for the child may not be best for the mother (as in being born)...that's why ppl are able to place their children up for adoption....so the mother can go back to doing what is right for her, but only after she has done right by her child.

hopefully you didn't take me as bein nasty......just tryin to make it clear how this particular pro-lifer thinks.

and godfrey, i DO understand and acknowledge your post as well......it all makes good sense. however, i think ppl are too quick to make decisions for these unborn children b/c they already know how they would handle situations.....but no one wants to even give these kids a chance to rise above. it has been done before, ya know. not everyone born into bad circumstances has failed in life and was worthless to society. why not give them a chance to succeed??
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