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Old 04-23-2004, 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by naraht
To a *small* degree, what the campus will consider hazing will vary from campus to campus. PUblic vs. Private, California vs. Deep South, historically Black vs. historically white.

The chapter has to go on any point of whichever is *strictest*: APO risk management/pledge standards; State Law, School Rules. Some schools have gone to, IMO, a ludicrous level, but the chapter just has to live with it. If the chapter doesn't know how it can follow both the school rules and the pledge standards, *PLEASE* talk to your sectional chair/regional director about it. It will be worked out.

All that having been said, I go with the following rule of thumb. If the pledges of a chapter are doing an event and the school president, editor of the school newspaper (holding a camera) and your chapter's regional director walk in and your program doesn't change, don't worry about it.

Randy
All good points about school policy. School policy always trumps fraternity policy.

Please note, that my previous note was about OTHER GLOs hazing policies, not state/school policies.

The few times I have heard of school policies making chapter change their pledge programs has been when schools mandated a shorter pledge program (NPS say 6-10 weeks) or in certain cases didn't allow for a true pledge program (for which the fraternity has an alternate new member education program policy).

A good rule of thumb I've heard and used is "Never ask a pledge to do something you won't ask a Brother". I think its a good one, but again, I've seen it misused. Nonsense like: 'we wouldn't ask a brother to collect signatures, so how can you ask a pledge?' (Answer: uh, we DO ask brothers to collect signature. Go to a National Convention and check out the Golden VIP contest.) or 'we wouldn't ask a brother to wear his pin, so how can you ask a pledge?' (Answer: uh, yes we do. many times in our chapter our president has reminded the brothers to wear their letters and pins at upcoming events). Well, you get the idea.
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