Thread: The Victory Act
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:03 PM
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Lemme ramble for a second . . .

I had this conversation with a cop once and he was like if you have nothing to hide why shouldn't I be able to search your car or your house or whatever. Why would you care?

It kind of stumped me how to answer. A friend had a good argument though. What if Mr. Kr has nude pics of KR in the back of his car, or in his home. nothing ilegal there . . . but maybe he doesn't want anyone to see them and talk about them.

Maybe he has porn magazines. Nothing ilegal but embarrassing. Maybe he just doesn't like people going through his stuff and invading his privacy. ITs not even about ilegalities per se . . its about not wanting people in his business and private life ESPECIALLY if he isn't doing anything wrong.

Plus when people go through your stuff there is a record of what they find, and they talk to people about it.

Also, with that attitude its kind of like: Well people have a burden to prove they are innocent by allowing others to invade their privacy and search . . because no honest American would mind.

Keep in mind that law enforcement can search and do lots of stuff, but they are supposed to have a burden of proof they can show to an impartial witness(judge) that there is an obvious suspicioin you are wrong doing.

Now with the patriot act et al. They are removing that burden of proof. Or changing it so that if your records are being searched, you won't know. Thats what has people upset.


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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Apologies to James for a semi-hijack!

I would like to pose a question for the people who are against things like the Patriot Act and an expanded war on drugs. Please no flaming anyone! This isn't an instance where I want to collect the opinions of others so I can criticize them or shoot them down. I am honestly curious and would like to know what you think.

Anyhoo...

People who are for the Patriot Act, an expanded war on drugs and other activities that others think will impinge on our liberties could well read the article James posted and think something like this:

"I have nothing to hide. There is nothing in my financial records that I want to hide, nor do I make plans for illegal activities on the phone. I am a law-abiding citizen and no amount of digging will reveal evidence to the contrary."

In your opinion, does this person have anything to fear from things like the Patriot Act?

Thank you!
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