Yeah Heather.... knowing a bit about your campus I have heard about your strugles... but I have to say Bruin A PHi is right... COB should begin the moment after formal bids are extended... it makes more sense that way you can have ladies go through the NM process as part of the class that got bids on formal bid day... I don't see that it would hurt the group that does well during formal to let them COB as soon as formal is over. I do agree that the chapter doing less to get girls to formal should have some sort of repercussion... although it seems to be kicking the group in the pants because they DON'T do well during Formal... they are kinda letting themselves down by not doing the PRE- rush stuff of fliers tabling etc... which I kwow is necessary I know fines aren't "panhellenic" but I for one am kinda sick of having no real way to enforce Panhell rules... but maybe that's just my campus...