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Originally posted by PartyShark69:
Uh, Yeah the SEC is just out to take charters for fun! YEAH RIGHT! Its more of a huge pain in there ass.
What!? You feel sympathy for Tau, are you guys insane. Jeesus, you know in life there are certain rules that we all must abide by and if you cant do it now then when are you ever going to? After I heard about Tau and how they were, I was all for takin there charter, hell yeah, get rid of those guys, they are not representing KS well at all. It's unbeleivable how many brothers out there like yourselves think that the SEC is just out to get you. No, they are here to help us be better men and if you cant follow the rules that they set in front of us, maybe you should reconsider being a Kappa SIg. I know my chapter follows the rules and does everything right, and we are very good because of that.
James, I cant beleive you called our SEC evil, they are the reason that we can sleep well at night, knowing that the Fraternity is in good hands.
Trust me, you have to be a pretty shitty chapter to have your charter pulled, and if you're a chapter that just cares about partying and wreckin shit, then Im all for revokin your charter. Kappa Sigma has so much more to offer than a freakin hangover and a destroyed house. Maybe if you guys worked harder for the order you would understand that!
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OK . . . Hi, I'm Rob - I'm from Mu-Psi at BU, how are ya brother Partyshark? Nice to meet you, good to see more brothers on here.
Now . . .
1.) hmmm . . . I don't know that it's all that important for you to tell me that i should 'work harder for the order' - I love and cherish the fraternity as much as anybody, and it's not really all that cool or informed of you to tell me or James what our level of involvement or understanding is. Thanks.
2.) You make a LOT of very good points, man. I agree totally w/ the 'more to offer than a hangover' part, and that each of us must represent kappa sig to the best of our abilities - however, I find this application troublesome. First of all, Tau was screwed in a lot of ways, and the SEC is not implicitly infallable. In fact, mismanagement by the SEC is what brought about this whole memorial foundation mess to begin with. The SEC is made up of brothers who may or may not work for all of our best interests - all i can see is that Tau was refused many basic rights to defend themselves, including a written record of the proceedings, and was railroaded. Add that to the fact that the SEC has outspoken personal problems w/ Tau alumni (including some on the memorial foundation), and this looks very suspicious; human nature would dictate that these feelings may have played a role in the proceedings. I DO feel sorry for the UT guys. The SEC should not, ideally, be a policing force in any way that your GM in your chapter should be a policing agent. The SEC should be a promotional force, attempting to further the growth and prosperity of KS worldwide and on a local level. They should attempt to help EVERY brother live by the Star and Crescent. Recall: HELP - not ditch them to alumni status and revoke the charter. Unbelievable. In fact, the original plan didn't even assure recolonization of a 110-yr-old charter; this came much later. The school was fairly OK with the chapter, advising that "action take place" to alleviate any potential future problems - but the SEC decided that they were bounced. Look at the chapters losing charters - Tau, Gamma at LSU, NEU(LA) for "conduct unbecoming of KS", etc. These are OLD OLD charters, are extremely strong chapters, and have huge alumni bases. Where do the problems stem from? That's the issue - not "band-aid"ing the situation by revoking the charter - that's the easy way out. I think Tau was shafted (and maybe even gamma too - that's another story though).
3.) You can sleep well at night, b/c the fraternity is in good hands . . . that's great, but is it? A common sentiment in my district, in fact one overly-used cliche is IMH often appears as nothing more than a giant insurance company, with only negative impact on our everyday fraternal lives. Now, I realize the importance of having our national structure the way it is, and I respect the hard work of brothers making an impact for all of their fellow brothers nationwide - but not everyone's goals are so noble. Sometimes I wonder what the overall focus of our fraternity, nationally, has become. Remember this:
Kappa Sigma is, first and foremost and by founding, a SOCIAL FRATENITY.
This fact is lost on too many brothers. Yes, I've achieved many a hangover with my brothers. yes, some of my finest college memories are of PHILANTHROPIC events, which are inordinate amounts of fun. Yes, we keep a busy social calendar. Yes, the busiest offices in the chapter are often philanthropy and social chairs (along w/ rush and GS). The kappa sigma experience is personalized to each person - is the SEC helping me to do this? I don't know - all i can say is that I feel for my brothers at other chapters who just wanted to be heard, to get a fair shake, to be allotted the respect and love that AEKDB and the star and crescent dictate. I do not think the SEC has tempered its actions with either wisdom or brotherhood. Or do you not consider the Tau men your 'brothers'? I can only say to look into the docet and re-read about SAJ, who was almost denied membership in our order. In much the same way, you do not know the UT guys - get to know them, their lives, their campus before you drop the anvil. On the flip side, how would you feel if 2 or 3 guys (accounting for <4% of my chapter) got in serious trouble? Would you be for the revokation of your own charter? Would you think, "We're goddamned monsters! Why, I must put more effort into learning and loving the order! I MUST WORK HARDER TO KNOW THAT KAPPA SIGMA IS NOT JUST A HANGOVER AND A RUINED HOUSE!" I highly doubt it. Over 200,000 men have come into our order, and most have emerged for the better. Let's utilize our principles to not judge them, as well as applying them in a blanket manner over those made out to be 'bad'. remember, there are other possible motives behind the tau chapter fiasco - examine the board members and trustees of the memorial foundation, and research the history of the SEC members w/ these guys . . . it's sordid, on all sides. But don't trust blindly any man - rather, afford every brother the love and respect he deserves, and DEMAND the same; the brothers that provide these things, even to those who've strayed from the path or lost their way, are those that live up to their obligation. and that is, after all, what makes us Kappa Sigmas. Thanks dude - take care, later - if you're ever in the NE, stop by!
Rob
[This message has been edited by KSig RC (edited June 15, 2001).]