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Originally alleged by Sistermadly: In short, you've basically just asked "why are all black people everywhere like this?"

NO he did not. Additionally, as has been pointed out the 'H' in HBGLO is there, and NPHC does not equal black - to use the above text. Plus, he said multicultural and Latino orgs participate in the initiatives enthusiastically; I would think those orgs likely have black men and women as members, as might the NIC/NPC groups!

And again from Sistermadly: Okay, so let's spin this on another angle.

A totally different one from the original post apparently.

Say he came in and said that he noticed that of all the sororities on his campus, the women of Alpha Phi (for example) never wanted to do anything, were stuck up snobs, and just generally had bad attitudes, and then asked whether A Phis on other campuses were like this. It's no different - the issue here is making generalizations about an entire class of people based on his anecdotal and limited experience.

The words 'attitude problem' spring to mind to put it mildly - totally inapplicable example. Number one he did NOT attribute characteristics (snobby etc) as you did in your example. "Our NPHC doesn't seem to want to participate with the rest of the greek community" is a statement of fact based on witnessed events. Did he say "Our NPHC are obstructive, rude, prejudiced and have no sense of campus community spirit because they don't participate in..."? NO. Further note his use of the word 'our'. Comments noting he has limited/anecdotal experience are facile, he has not attended every single university in N. America with greek life for four years or been involved for two decades at all different ones as an advisor; so of COURSE his comments + questions are personal to his experiences. Sistermadly my slightly acid tone is because you seem to be calling someone out for bad behavior which isn't present and someone has asked for advice/input.

Yet more: Even if someone shared similar experience with the NPHC at their own school, it's still anecdotal experience, and it doesn't say anything about the NPHC as a whole.

He never said nor sought to say anything about the NPHC as a whole!! There is something he observed on his campus and asks if others have observed similar on theirs.

We've really want them to do stuff with the rest of the greeks, especially since they're the fastest growing greek council. I mean, if what we're doing is comm. service and showing spirit for your org, why not?

See, now I see this as admirable. All greek together, working to build a stronger system for the benefit of all orgs. Being in a vacum devoid of NPHC influence and input when those orgs are present would be a great shame in my opinion. Unless people think otherwise to that I think commendation for his enthusiasm would have been better with suggestions and advice on how to contribute to a more integrated Greek system which respected and built on the different characteristics and rich heritage all all the different types of GLOs there.