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Originally posted by BabyP
I have to agree that hazing are in nationals.
Nationals cost too much and hence "buying the friendship" Let me ask you something, you go to someones house you dont know in another state, whatever, and they accept you? that is buying friends...I dont care who you are I dont trust strangers in my house!
Two, Locals do NOT have to have a quota, i have also seen nationals shut down cuz they didnt have at least 50 members.
Three, too many people, its not a real togetherness.
Four, as for the house, sac state doesnt have greek row, only TWO greeks have a house. Also I have notice more HAZING and RAPES and UNDERAGE drinking in houses.
With locals, yes, we can change the rules for the better, hazing was accepted 50 years ago and the rules of nationals go back like a hundred years. Also nationals tend to discriminate based on looks, money or/and power.
Five, nationals seem to be obssessed with legacies. I honestly dont think it should matter if family was in ABC cuz that doesnt mean the child is the same as the parents.
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Most of this post makes about as much sense as the "all locals haze" myth.
As for me, I ended up at a school that doesn't allow locals (although we did back in the "olden days" -- I've seen yearbook pictures) so it wasn't really a choice I ultimately had to make. However, at the University of Minnesota (my first school), and later when contemplating where to transfer to when choices include Beloit College and UW-Stevens Point, I would have had to make that decision since all three schools have a mix of nationals and locals. I was leaning more towards nationals and would have looked at them first, but I certainly would have picked a local over a national if I had liked the girls more. However, assuming all other factors were roughly equal I would have picked a national over a local.
Here are some advantages I think locals have over nationals:
- lower dues, which definitely would have helped if I had gone to Beloit, which is expensive enough
- a really great sense of history. Of course, some nationals have this and not all locals do, but the ones that do -- wow. I remember reading the Theta Pi Gamma website and wanting to pledge them for the story of their history alone -- haha! I feel like most national sororities either didn't keep good enough track of their history, sanitized it for posterity, or just weren't as interesting as the locals.
- As veemers said, there is something neat about knowing that every single one of your alums shared a similar experience in that you all went to the same school.
Conversely, why I was more interested in a national:
- the national presence. I love driving down the highway and seeing Tri Delta bumper stickers on cars, I love coming to GC and talking to sisters from UCLA and Stockton and everywhere in between, I love references to our name in movies and books and TV. Even when it's less than positive, like the portrayal in "Eating the Chesire Cat," it still just makes me laugh.
- the hazing thing. Although clearly not all locals haze and I have no clue if the locals at the schools I was looking at do, in Wisconsin locals are definitely more likely to (at least when it comes to sororities -- with fraternities it's pretty much even regardless of national/local status). I would have done my research with whatever group I decided to join, though. Nationals have the added bonus of, when it comes to hazing, if things get really out of control there is some sort of recourse you can take (by calling HQ) but that is not always the case with locals.
- In terms of Greek involvement at Minnesota where most of the system is national, I feel like belonging to a local sorority would limit the involvement I had in the Greek system. I wanted to be involved in as much as I possibly could and get to know as many people as I possibly could, and I'm not sure this would have happened in a local sorority. (At the Wisconsin schools where locals are more common, I don't think this would be a problem.)