[Rudey]

Originally posted by cash78mere
rudey, you love to blast your mouth off about things you just don't understand

i'm a teacher. i have my masters--which i had to take out $20000 in loans for (in addition to my undergrad loans), and is REQUIRED by the state to get within 5 years of getting a job. my masters isn't paid for, like many companies.

Welcome to the real world where lots of people in lots of professions are burdened with loans. Not many companies pay for your higher education. Of course you didn't mention how there is often loan forgiveness for teachers.

i don't work 9-5. i work until 11pm sometimes and definitely over the weekends. i spend almost $2000 of my own money on my classroom every year. which doesn't get reimbursed. have you ever had to buy pencils or paper for your office if you run out? we do. and it's not little things--chart paper is $20 each and i go through about a dozen a year. not reimbursed.

You really need to stop with the insults against me. Most contracts require around 6.5 hours per day. Your 11pm is not on a daily basis most likely (I assume anyway). It is also not typical of most teachers. Sweetheart, 11pm is early for me.

i don't get paid for the summers. my "time off", which is well deserved, is unpaid. i am a 9 month employee. i have to work 2 jobs over the summer to make ends meet. i COULD have the summer off, but then i wouldn't be able to live. lesson plans do NOT come right from a book. if i used book plans, i would be fired. they are a good starting point and can be used sometimes, but lesson plans have to be way more elaborate.

Actually your salary takes into account you don't work over the summer. Your time off as well deserved as you think it is, is a luxury most professions do not have. Your choosing this profession and not being able to afford more means you live above your means. You create new plans every year, year after year??

i can get fired in an instant with no reason. hence why tenure is important. if a parent is powerful and has a big mouth, he/she can get you fired, even if you did nothing wrong. i've seen it happen. then try to find another job after being fired from a teaching job--you can't because there's a stigma.

You'd probably get another teaching jobs if you were fired. Actually quite often very unqualified people with bad track records are hired. You are here to serve the students, not the other way around. If you are a bad teacher, you should not be put on administrative duties. You should be knocked out. And evidently your NYC teacher's union is catching on and they're pursuing a process that is a fraction of what it used to be. Before you did not get fired in an instant, but you can pretend you did.

teaching jobs on long island are IMPOSSIBLE to come by. you have to know someone to get in, but still have to go through a massive interview process which often leads nowhere. some of my friends still have teaching assistant positions 4 years out of college.

Couldn't care about teaching jobs in long island.

i have to deal with parents constantly. my prep is spent on the phone or photocopying. my lunch is spent in my class doing things. i never sit down.

I have to deal with clients. Police have to deal with criminals. Everyone deals with something. My lunch is spent grabbing something quickly or eating at my desk on conference calls. You are not a unique creature.

i make $48k, with 4 years of experience and a masters degree. that's NOT a lot of money. a small house in a not-so-great area goes for $400k. i will NEVER be able to afford a house on my salary alone.

I will never be able to afford a $400 million house. Does that mean anything? No. You're making much higher than the poverty rate. You have the potential of getting married and having a larger family income (generally more than 1 person lives in a house).

i don't know who thinks $50k is a lot of money. it's a good amount, but nothing to raise a family on.

That is quite a bit for a 9 month job. Actually let's break it down by the hour gorgeous:

How teachers stack up
The average annual teacher salary is $44,367 (About $30 an hour). Here's how some other professions compare.

Occupation Mean hourly wage Mean annual wage
Construction managers $24.96 $51,920
Finance managers $28.56 $59,400
Chemical engineers $29.44 $61,240
Physicists $33.23 $69,120
Lawyers $36.49 $75,890
Dentists $44.40 $92,350


Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics


i LOVE my job. i'm NOT complaining. but PLEASE don't talk about things you don't know about first hand.

Keep your experiences in case you need something to fall back on.

come to ny and you are welcome to observe my class for a day. i guarantee you'll change your tune.

(granted--i KNOW there are some bad teachers. not everyone is good)

I'd rather not.

-Rudey
--I guess I just don't understand