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Originally posted by Rudey
SAT scores are linked to success your first year in college I believe. And I'd really like to know who it is that's not smart but has great social abilities to get where they are. I don't mean the people who pretty much inherit money, success, and fame/notoriety but the ones that end up making it. What do people consider a measure of intelligence? I think this is funny but maybe not really a topic for greeklife. Who knows.
And mathematical and science texts aren't just logical steps. If they are, you're taking joke classes. If I don't see another frigging proof for years I'll be happy because they pretty much tell you 1+1=2 and give you one defining statement at the end and expect you to come up with all the steps in between.
-Rudey
--And before you laugh, proving 1+1=2 was actually a page long assignment.
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You're right -- the SAT is supposed to correlate with first year college grades. But it doesn't correlate with college grades in general. (If anybody is an example of that it's me! . . . but we won't get into that.)
I kinda doubt that the ex who was taking linear algebra in high school is now, as a junior in college, taking "joke classes."
Granted I never got past calculus, but it seemed pretty clear that math is based on logical applications. It's a little bit intuitive but mostly just requires enough practice to know when to apply which steps. And the boys have backed me up on this. I also asked the engineer if he thought most people could do well in his classes if they studied enough and he said that most of them could, though it would take a lot of studying for a few of them (this coming from a kid who already studies too much).
This is because the current conception of intelligence isn't based on who gets the answer, it's based on who gets the answer fastest. That's why IQ tests are timed -- they they weren't, the person who finishes in 30 minutes and the person who finishes in 2 hours could easily get the same score. The faster you can figure something out the higher your IQ generally is -- but that doesn't mean that people with low IQs are too stupid to figure the same questions out. It just takes them longer.
As for whoever said that IQ scores as a young child would be the most accurate prediction of intelligence -- actually, IQ scores don't stabilize until your late teen years, so it wouldn't be out of the question for someone to score 100 on an IQ test when you were 8, 160 when you were 12, and even out at 130 by the time you were 18. Usually the variations are a little less drastic than that, though
-- but they still exist.
For that reason most people don't advocate IQ tests for kids because they're probably going to be pretty inaccurate in the long run.
God, the things I remember from AP psych . . .