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Originally posted by Rudey
Your points addressed:
1 - You have no evidence, facts, numbers. YOU see it. I see dead people.
2 - Oh so now it's not every time so Harvard boy does seem to have an advantage a lot of the time huh? Well I guess as long as Harvard boy isn't an idiot who managed to get bad grades in the easy classes he should do well.
3 - You didn't say it but when you say you end up with larger debt and the same jobs what does that mean?
4 - Most people I know get recruited while in school. Your in the eye of the beholder comment might work if you actually learned a lot from an MBA but you don't. This isn't like comparing math classes at West Bumphuck U and Harvard; these are MBA classes.
5 - This statement basically again says that an MBA from a top school is worthless.
Now my three points:
1 - You learn nothing from an MBA that you couldn't in a 1 week program.
2 - Those in the top 10 schools for MBAs earn more money, get better jobs, get promoted faster, learn from better teachers and share experiences with smarter students.
3 - Unless you're dying to work for some place that just requires an mba from your local grocery store, then an MBA from a school that isn't top isn't worth it. At that point you should analyze the costs and benefits - why would spending that much money on a worthless program where you learn little and work in a crud job be worth it?
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Again - you are putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said that the Harvard grad has the advantage a lot of the time. I said, yes, he will have the advantage some of the time. The other guy will have the advantage some of the time. It just all depends on a number of things. And no, my last statement doesn't even imply that an ivy-league MBA is worthless. I don't know how you're getting that.
Also - it is not an absolute that those who graduate from the top 10 schools will earn more money, get the better job, get promoted faster, learn from better teachers and share experiences with smarter students. Yes, it is LIKELY that these things will happen, but it is not in any way a guarantee. So, what then do you think of the professors at these "lower" schools that have degrees from the top 10 schools? Are you saying that someone with a Harvard degree who teaches classes at Joe Blow U all of a sudden loses intelligence or credibility as soon as he accepts that teaching position? Someone is teaching those classes at the non-top 10 schools, and a lot of those people are these ivy-league grads of whom you speak.
All I am trying to point out is that it doesn't matter where you have your degree from as long as you have your degree. I haven't taken any MBA classes yet so as to your claim that you could learn it all in a 1-week program, I don't know, but somehow I doubt it. I just don't agree with your point that anything other than something from a top 10 school is worthless. You can't sit here and say that only ivy-league grads get the "non-crud jobs." You tell me to bring facts and figures but you haven't either.