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Old 01-07-2004, 03:45 PM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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Originally posted by AXiD670
....that's funny, I am addressing what you say. Here, I'll make it easier for you:

1 - there IS kissing up. Either you don't see it, or you must not want to admit it. I see it happen every day, so I know that it happens.
2 - Harvard boy might win, but not every time. Joe Blow boy will win too. HR is not going to base their hiring decision purely on where the applicant's degree is from.
3 - I never said that Ivy-league degrees are worthless. Please show me where I said that.
4 - proving what your degree is worth is obviously in the eye of the beholder. If someone's ultimate goal in life is to become the CEO of one of the top companies in the country or the world, then yeah, an ivy-league MBA will get you there faster. But it doesn't guarantee that you will get the job over someone else. But if your goal in life is to have a job for which an MBA is required, then going to Joe Blow U is fine. If you already have a job before you even get out of school, then none of that recruitment stuff will apply to you anyways. You're already a step ahead of your classmates.
5 - the rich comment was made as in saying I (as in me, myself and I) don't see any difference in someone who went to Harvard and someone who went to Joe Blow U. If they both have an MBA degree, then they are both qualified for the job that requires it. The person who went to Harvard probably payed a LOT more money to put themself through school than the guy who went to Joe Blow did.
Your points addressed:
1 - You have no evidence, facts, numbers. YOU see it. I see dead people.
2 - Oh so now it's not every time so Harvard boy does seem to have an advantage a lot of the time huh? Well I guess as long as Harvard boy isn't an idiot who managed to get bad grades in the easy classes he should do well.
3 - You didn't say it but when you say you end up with larger debt and the same jobs what does that mean?
4 - Most people I know get recruited while in school. Your in the eye of the beholder comment might work if you actually learned a lot from an MBA but you don't. This isn't like comparing math classes at West Bumphuck U and Harvard; these are MBA classes.
5 - This statement basically again says that an MBA from a top school is worthless.

Now my three points:
1 - You learn nothing from an MBA that you couldn't in a 1 week program.
2 - Those in the top 10 schools for MBAs earn more money, get better jobs, get promoted faster, learn from better teachers and share experiences with smarter students.
3 - Unless you're dying to work for some place that just requires an mba from your local grocery store, then an MBA from a school that isn't top isn't worth it. At that point you should analyze the costs and benefits - why would spending that much money on a worthless program where you learn little and work in a crud job be worth it?

-Rudey
--I'd like to buy an ipod with the money you're just throwing away please
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