What did Judaism have to do with this??
A) The Prime Minister of Israel did not go to the media and make a remark against US treatment of Saddam Hussein.
B) Even if the PM were to do that, he represents nobody but the nation of Israel which is composed of Jews, Muslim, Christians, Buddhists, Atheists, and more.
C) Judaism does not have a singular power structure. Many branches have developed over the years and there is no kind of body to control them. There is a Chief-Rabbi of Israel but that is sorta ambiguous as there are Chief Rabbis in a lot of places for several denominations. There is also a Chief Rabbi for the areas of Judae and Samaria.
D) Judaism is a religion. Catholicism is a religion. Catholicism (the religion) was not commented on but the Vatican (the controlling body with political history) was. Would you happen to know what the political body for Judaic religion (see bullet C) is so we can discuss that?
E) The Vatican is not without its sins and is not off limits. Should anyone that makes a comment on the Vatican be considered as insulting your faith?
F) Why is it wrong to bring historical wrongdoings into this? Are there not character judgements made daily from jounalism, business dealings, and court rooms? The Vatican has a lot to answer for. Should someone of such high stature within the Vatican say something about Saddam and not about other things including things in his own church, it sound not only hypocritical but also tarnishes their image.
I couldn't care how your husband's family or he feels towards Jews. Do you know why? Because for hundreds of years through progroms, inquisitions, the holocaust we've been hated and kicked around. We've been in ovens, felt the tips of cold steel-toed boots, and more and we're still here and we're still prosperous. Antisemitism has peaked globally to levels unexperienced for years now. But at the end of the day, none of us will sit there and take it. In areas of religion, philosophy, science, medicine, finance, business, entertainment, and now global security Jews have been groundbreakers. We're not just a religion but a people - different from any other religion. There is no comparison. Those that sit there hating us are the ones that fall behind - they are the errors of the world that end up disgusting the future generations.
-Rudey
--And I do love Catholics.
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Originally posted by justamom
The Pope did not make the statement. The Pope, NOT THE CARDINAL, is the head of our Church. People close to him have said his strength does not allow him more than showing up and perhaps reciting a few prayers that have been repeated through the years. That about covers that.
The Cardinal made a statement of opinion...NOT doctrine. The problem is when anyone speaks FROM the Vatican, they are seen as speaking FOR the Vatican. I do not for one minute agree with his statement and believe he was wrong to put it out there without clarification.
Dragging historical wrongdoings into THIS discussion is uncalled for.
Yes, I do agree some of the BS flying around FEELS like "bashing".
One simple question...
I feel rather certain that there are one or two other threads where Catholics get bathed in criticism. Has this ever occurred where the table are turned on the Jewish Faith? I would like a link if someone could provide it. Maybe there was some debate over Israel and the Palestinians a while ago.
I do not understand such ill will towards my faith. it's one thing to
disagree. It's quite another to vehemently spout off things that are irrelevant to the Church of today.
My husband's family is not too fond of Jewish people period. They have opinions on a few of the other Christian faiths as well.(My husband NOT included) I could shovel some BS right back at "ya"
that would be accurate on some level, but not in totality. Yet, tit for tat does not improve understanding or communication. I can honestly say that on GC, I haven't seen too many Catholics go for the jugular with such vengeance. What, IS it? No one is holding a gun to anyones head and saying you have to join the "club".
You would think everyone would love us! Think how much we spur the economy and line those retailers pockets at Christmas time... think about that and you might see the underlying inference-then tell me how it feels.
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