[Kevin]

I can say that with or without hazing, you can develop an extremely tight brotherhood. My chapter does not haze at all. When I attend chapter meetings, to this day, I'm amazed at the level of brotherhood and involvement that our undergrads have in eachothers' lives. I'm amazed at their dedication to Sigma Nu's principles of Love, Honor and Truth. I can't see how you could ever justify hazing and say that you had any respect for love, honor and truth. Our alum chapter is pretty tight as well.

If ya'll have truly been around since 1885 then congratulations! However, you should realize and your alums should be made to realize that in the 21st century, a few things have changed since 1885. For the longevity of your chapter, I urge you to consider revamping your new member education program.

There are certainly things you can do with your new members without hazing, sleep deprivation, etc. to make them "earn" their letters. Trust me, not everyone that wants into my chapter of Sigma Nu makes it either. They must show real dedication to our values.