[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
One of the things Bush said either right before or right after he declared war (I think it was before but don't quote me on that) was along the lines of, "We know he has WMDs, we know where they are, and if we go to war we will be able to confiscate them." I'll go look for the exact quote in a bit . . . but under any circumstances he was clearly lying about knowing where the weapons were since they didn't turn up then or any time after.

There is no excuse for that. It would be one thing if he had said "We have reasonable evidence that points us towards XYZ as a place where the weapons may be hidden," but to the best of my recollection that was not the way it was put, and he was clearly overstating his case for war by pretending they had a much stronger lead than they did.

"It's not lying if you believe it."
- George Costanza