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Originally posted by enlightenment06
and why are the soldiers dying in Iraq? Because Saddam Hussein had WMD's? Which we really have no clue if they really exist. How can you justify that to a dead soldier's family? Every day more soldiers are getting killed, and why? Because Bush doesn't want to turn control over to the U.N., because the U.S. has to be the "top dog."
Look, I'm from NYC, and we have alot of roaches in NYC. When there's a problem with roaches, everyone knows you can't solve the problem by trying to kill them all, it just doesn't work. You think they're gone and they're not. What you have to do is figure out where the roaches are coming from and then alleviate the problem that way. Using our troops to run around the world shooting people isn't going to make anyone safer. Violence begets more violence.
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The US is top dog. It has been for a bit and will be for a while. Nobody claims it will be forever and odds are that at the very least the US will have another superpower in the world within 20 years. The US has recognized that and is aligning itself with a whole new set of countries that matter because of it. In terms of the UN, the UN is worthless and has been forever. Why? Because the power of the UN is derived from its member nations and when member nations choose to ignore certain rules (say the recent clear violations of nuclear treaties in Iran) the UN is worthless. Also the UN had pretty much legally authorized this war last I checked from the first Gulf war.
Why should the US turn over control to the UN? This is an argument made that I don't understand quite yet. Lives will be lost - none of it is dependent on which country or organization is in there. I guess spreading the pain helps people forget? The US is capable - there are areas in which it can attract other countries which are much more capable, but it can do so outside of UN control.
In terms of death, let's play a numbers game. Put aside emotions. In this world emotions are worthless. They fade and nobody remembers. You go into a war knowing the risk you're taking and if you die, you might be missed - but only for a while. Nobody cries for you. Sad, no? How many allied troops are in Iraq? How many allied deaths have occured in Iraq ? Well the percentage is very low. Now if this is about life and death - then how about the mass graves of thousands of Shiites massacred? The Kurds who breathed chemicals that melted their lungs? Villages that were starved off intentionally? Are their lives worth less than a US soldier's? And nobody will deny Iraqi civilian deaths in Iraq but the number is just impossible to compare to the numbers that Saddam killed and would have killed.
I don't care why the US went in and I'll be honest about that. I care simply that Saddam is no longer in power. I also care that Iraq is weakened and with it a whole system of Arab dictators felt the pain. I care that a country that attacked my home and started a war that killed over a million people - a war in which children walked across mine fields because there weren't enough weapons - is no longer able to do that. And right now I only hope that the US doesn't leave because that would lead to so many problems and if it does leave will the criticism stop? Will countries that are doomed to a slow death in Western Europe say bad things still? The country can be repaired in time.
-Rudey
--Everyone dies.