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Old 12-11-2003, 02:17 PM
Kimmie1913 Kimmie1913 is offline
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Re: Re: Great Topic and Discussion

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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Welcome to GC Frat! Please post often...we are in need of more of the male persective And u know ERRRYYBODY luv da bruz anyway...

In regards to your post..I am not sure of the specific law that Honeykiss1974 is referring to either...but my question is...
who's fault is it that these AA's lost their right to vote?? Are you saying that since these laws were enacted during slaver that they are no longer valid??? Some blame it on the discrepancies in incarceration rates for blacks vs. whites. I'm not buying that though...I'm all for self-accountability. ENOUGH ALREADY with blaming other people for our shortcomings, mistakes, etc..
Although this is somewhat moving away from the topic of the thread, here are my concerns with disenfranchisement. What exactly is the rationale for taking away the right to vote? What is the purpose for this disenfranchisement? Our justice system has multiple personality disorder. Some of its policies are based on punishment, some on rehabilitation. On one hand, it says you are supposedly welcomed back into society once you have paid your debt but on the other hand you can never pay your debt because you will always be without certain "rights."

I think what is significant about the fact that these laws came about during slavery and reconstruction/Jim crow relates to their underlying purpose and rationale. Are they accomplishing anything and is there a reason we feel that someone with a felony conviction should not be able to vote? Maybe the majority of people do feel they make sense but I wonder has anyone really stopped to think about it.

As far as accountability, I agree. We are all responsible for our own choices and actions. I am of the mindset that it is not about excusing AfAm's who do wrong because the system is not equal, it is about making the system equal and punishing everyone who deserves it. All Americans need to be held accountable. When I argue against racial profiling, it is not to say I think those who were caught should have not been but to say I want them to look for all criminals regardless of race. The choice to more vigorously police one population will result in finding the criminals where you look. I want them to look everywhere, not just here. I want the role of bias in arrests, prosecution, and sentencing to be acknowledged and addressed. I want the playing field to not be theoretically even but actually even. If you think it is even in the criminal justice system, come sit in the courthouse in Baltimore City and watch the disparate goings ons with me for a day or two.

It seems like these discussions (in the world not just GC) often come down to either you think how things are done is fine and AfAm's are society's losers who are whining about nothing or you are somehow rooting to set the criminals free.
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