Once again there was no state and no nation. If you can find something on that please let me know. Actually why don't you just call it Trans-Jordan. There is no debate here simply because you chose to say it's debatable.
a) I didn't talk about the settlements or the use of weapons. You just suddenly had to throw that in there. I was talking about a completely different issue.
b)You also do not understand the difference between the different kinds of UN actions because if you did you wouldn't have brought up US vetoing power and if you knew anything about the history of the region you would know that Arab countries often voted against UN motions against Israel because they made mention of them as well in there. You're right about one thing, you don't "understand the reasons" behind anything and you didn't address the issue.
See Cooper, you know nothing about the region. Most people claim ignorance and say "I don't know" - you have to brag about knowing though. Stick to bragging about your Canadian military experience as opposed to bragging about something you don't know a single thing about - maybe that will get you somewhere in your country. I've "listened long enough" too and your next post I won't read since you've been on ignore (I was foolish enough to look at your post this time) and I won't care to see you talk about things I wasn't addressing nor issues that you don't understand.
-Rudey
--Thank you Cooper - you are a source of pride to all Lambda Chis.
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Originally posted by RACooper
Alright I've listened long enough.....
If everyone called the region Palestine between 1922 and 1948 then guess what, that's why people say Palestine existed. As for if they still exist..... that's debatable according to international laws and precedants (ala the nation vs state critera).
As for Isreal violating international laws..... I can think of two.
1) Use of mechanized military equipment against insurgents hiding amongst civilians (refugees), or the use of military forces outside of the recognized borders against citizens of another country or region; both violate the Geneva Convention and International Law (as laid out by the UN and the Hague). Hey Germany did they same thing and they were condemed for it, but Sharon gets elected.
2) Settlements - violates both UN resolutions and the Oslo Accords.
As for "Palestine" violating international laws..... another two.
1) Funneling of state funds and humanitarian aid towards terrorist organizations, and the tacit approval of said terrorist groups by the reconginzed authority.
2) Using civilians as human shields against reprisals for attacks on citizens of another country or region; violation of the Geneva Convention and Internation Law (as laid out by the UN and the Hague).
As for why the UN has never done anything..... US veto. The US has consitently used it's veto (more than any other nation on the security council including France or Russia) to defeat motions ment to take economic, political, or legal action against Isreal. It can be argued that the US is protecting it's intrests in the region by protecting a staunch friend. Conversly the US has also vetoed a number of resultions regarding "Palestine", and I'll admit I don't understand the reasons behind these vetos.
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