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Originally posted by 33girl
Madmax beat me to the punch re the drunk driver incident. Any good that you've done goes into the toilet when you use things to make your statistics come out the way you want them to come out.
He started out with good intentions, but I think he's fallen in love with his own publicity and changed his goal from "educating to elimiate hazing" to "my work will eliminate hazing." I know all researchers and scientists have some amount of ego, but his has gone too far.
p.s., that Penn incident sounds like a Law & Order episode. was it made into one?
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I have to agree with this. He either exaggerates or eliminates details to make things sound worse than they are. Check out the first item on this website:
http://hazing.hanknuwer.com/cs2000.html
Yes, kids, that's my chapter. Before I was a member, but my chapter nonetheless.
Unfortunately he eliminates enough of the details and exaggerates the "hazing." Most non-Greeks don't understand enough about Greek policies to understand why a scavenger hunt is considering hazing, so they assume that something bad must have happened on the scavenger hunt in order for it to qualify as hazing (like the scavenger hunt depicted on SL2). In reality it was a simple scavenger hunt where nothing illegal or scandalous (the ever-popular "fraternity guys forcing girls to do something for them before they give them an item they need" idea) happened. The issue was basic ignorance of national policies. Nationals came in, educated, kicked out those who were involved. I was definitely not hazed when I joined two years later, and we don't haze our new girls now. As far as I know, no hazing has occurred in our chapter since that incident. The way he describes it makes things sound far worse. A number of incidents in his "hazing file" are described similarly, which makes me wonder about how much truth there is to them.
And as madmax said, there are a number of deaths that have no ties to hazing or very tenuous ties to hazing that he tries to paint as related. I'm not sure why, because surely there are enough hazing-related deaths and incidents that are real that he doesn't need to make them up?
He would have much more credibility if he didn't try to paint every single hazing incident as a life-threatening problem and every fraternity member's death as a possible hazing incident.
PS: You will notice that on his description of the infamous AKA drowning hazing from last year, there is no mention of the fact that the chapter was not even a recognized one.