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Old 11-25-2003, 06:15 PM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
Eh, simply put you are correct. But lavaliering and pinning have been going on for years and years and years all across the country. Now the "tradition" that follows, not necessarily. But I don't think these are rare fraternities that are "allowing the brother to put his girlfriend before them..."

But maybe lavaliering and pinning have different meanings as far as degrees of seriousness across different campuses, and on mine it was toward the serious end of spectrum.
Lots of things have been going on for years and years. It doesn't make it acceptable no matter how long it's done. I'm not saying this is or isn't acceptable. I don't care really too much about it. But if you are doing something that can be interpreted as hazing unless you come out to explain why it's not hazing, then you are increasing the risk you bring into your chapter. And then doing this in public, increases the risk further. The funny thing is after accepting this risk, someone acts like they're shocked that they get accused of hazing - I accept the fact that if I play blackjack and don't count my cards and keep track of probabilities in my head properly I can lose it all.

But it seems to me like the fraternity is creating a situation whereby lavaliering becomes "hos before bros" as someone so elegantly put it. There is nothing positive about hurting your chapter so I don't understand why that option is even there. Why not give her a charm or whatever and it would be just as serious if you wanted to interpret it like that.

On top of that, no matter how "serious" it is, the message I get is that it's cool to put "hos before bros" because there's a big celebration (after getting flogged with food) and all these people are happy for you.

-Rudey

Last edited by Rudey; 11-25-2003 at 06:19 PM.
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