The Junior college that I attended didn't use Plus Minus.. but my current UNniversity does and it DOES piss me off to lose the points for a B-. I mean I believe that there are shades of grey, and let's be honest... someone who doeesn't earn enough points to get that straight b or b plus probably does deserve some points lost.... but I think they should make it so the scale either doesn't penalize AS much for a "- ",grade or starts at say 3.0 points for a b- and then rewards for straight bs at like 3.3 and b pluses at like 3.5 or something. Because a B is a B and, but when I'm earining what I believe should be the points awarded for a C (2.92 I THINK at my school) for a B- it PISSES ME OFF. Plus I'm sure grad schools look at the system used for calculating GPA... but it makes you less competetive when applying because people coming from a school with another system will automatically have a higher GPA.