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Originally posted by _Opi_
I'm sorry rudy, but I do have to comment on a few things you said that are just absurd to me. Every country has its f****d up culture..and this culture is not any less corrupted as those "fundamentalist islamic countries" you are talking about.
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This is your 'thesis'. let's see how you go about proving it for us.
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Originally posted by _Opi_
I too lived in an islamic country in africa, and to be honest, people over here and over there behave the exact same way...just with different type of clothing and language.
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YAY! anecdotal evidence . . . useless in an argument. Not to mention that it is an observation used to form an opinion which is then passed as a fact. this is the only time you address the original point, and it doesn't really do you any good.
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Originally posted by _Opi_
What I am saying is..there is no denying that women are getting gang-raped..but before you decide to target one group of people...take a look at whats going on in other parts of the world.....Gang-rapes happen everywhere.....and do you know who are the cause of it all....deliquent, jevenile boys....and the Criminal Justice system that only allows them to serve a 5 year sentence for rape charge...
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Gang rapes do happen everywhere, but the point here was examining the sheer number of these brutal attacks in one subset of a culture, then looking at the reasons for it.
One reason that I cannot identify with: "delinquent, jevenile[sic] boys". That's probably the most shallow response I've ever heard. Are the boys born delinquent? I'd imagine not - perhaps it's some pernicious societal influence? well, there's not much more proof for that, but at least it examines the actual roots of the problem, instead of saying the equivalent of "There's bad apples in every bunch!"
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Originally posted by _Opi_
In the countries I have lived in, no one EVER considered rape acceptable....and if they say they are...its 99.99999% coming from a male...so they do not speak for the women in that specific culture.
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unless you have some sort of accurate population survey information, this whole paragraph means nothing. Also this doesn't help your thesis in the slightest. Even if the same number of people speak out against rape, obviously it is a larger part of the culture in these environments, which seems to kick your thesis in the junk.
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Originally posted by _Opi_
I don't believe that racist bullcrap you are serving people here when you say that christians don't do the same atrocities...take a look at hitler :-) and what about all those holy priests that raped all those little boys? so please, rudyy, you do not want to make ignorant comments like that here ok...
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whoa nelly, a strawman argument! also this is a key example of the fallacy of the complex question, and if you can't see why, then we can just agree to disagree and move on.
also, one of the most interesting forensics lessons I've ever heard given stated that if you ever have to resort to extreme examples such as Hitler, you're probably not proving your point. Just saying.