[Kimmie1913]

Originally posted by Nuyorican
This is really, really crazy. A dissertation?...how about a sentence or two. The original post on this forum stated what the research project entailed; which, at the time, had already been completed. I wasn't looking for any material; I was just curious about your thoughts or views. Anyone could have responded to the first paragraph, which in part states, Their conclusion was that white sorority women in this sample regarded sorority membership as a way to lead a productive social life that they hoped would enable them to get a man. In contrast, African American women's sorority participation centered on community service and career advancement. The two types of sorority appear to be structured to facilitate different agendas: for white women, short-term participation geared to meeting men and for black women, long-term participation geared to furthering both individual careers and the uplifting of the race through community projects. . What is so vague about that statement? Whether you agree or not agree with the authors' conclusion would have been sufficient.

The second paragraph could have been addressed in the same manner. Do you agree or not agree with Ms. Dunlap? Do you feel a sense of connection to your community, or are you primarily concerned with your own personal self and accomplishments? What are your personal views about a man in your life. Do you need one to feel fulfilled? What motivates you as you proceed through life? Anything would have sufficed.

I’m not the most intelligent person in the world, but I know where my intelligence lies. And I make it a point not to be vague, verbally or in the written word. Unfortunately, everyone expended more energy trying to tell me how obscure my statement was, where a small amount of that energy would have answered the question. If this was a point of pros and cons on a particular issue, we could trade words back and forth all day. However, this all stems from no one giving me a single thought on a not too difficult statement. It makes me wonder if you didn’t have a view one way or the other, and if that was the case; I would have accepted that.

First, let me say that I found your original post to be vague and was not sure what exactly your question was.

Were you interested in how we felt about the perception of NPC v. NPHC sororities? If so, that is a topic that has been well covered on GC. Per the "A Torch to Guide You" thread, members of the forum tend not to repeatedly discuss issues that have been previously addressed. Use of the forum's search feature will yield a myriad of threads on that topic.

Next, if your question was do we agree with Soror Dunlap's platform, I am not sure how many people were going to come along to denounce a platform based on inclusiveness and diversity. Agreement with her cause, in and of itself, is not a very thought provoking question and could have been answered with a yes or a no. Since there are other threads around GC dealing with Soror Dunlap's victory, some of them also address her platform. One of those threads may have been a more appropriate choice if your inquiry was simply reaction to her choice of causes.

As for this question "Do you feel a sense of connection to your community, or are you primarily concerned with your own personal self and accomplishments? What are your personal views about a man in your life. Do you need one to feel fulfilled? What motivates you as you proceed through life?" You have articulated it far more clearly in this post that in your original post. Your original question "I would like to know if her thoughts are similar to her "sorority sisters", or is your sense of community, race, and love; whether it is love for a man or family, different in each of you?" is not as clear. Really, this is not the same question that you have articulated in your most recent post. Initially you asked if we all share the same view rather than what our individual views are. Personally, I do not see the relationship between Soror Dunlap's cause and your second thought. Exactly what does agreeing with her position have to do with whether or not we have the same views on community, work and love? You have set them up as an either or in your question when the answers are going to be independent of each other. Furthermore, I do not know Soror Dunlap personally and could not begin to tell you what of her opinions are the same as her sisters. Frankly, I did not respond to your original post because the thought that 200,000 women would share the same view on too much of anything is naive. To me, the answer was obvious. Of course we represent a variety of opinions As you saw on our National Website, we have guiding principles, a common history and a five point programmatic thrust that we are all committed to furthering. We are individuals who share a common bond but we represent every walk of life, religion, race, profession and experience within our membership. We are a service organization committed to improving life with in the African American community and the country. Membership does not require we share any particular position on our personal lives.

As far as your question regarding relationships v. personal accomplishments are concerned, we have also discussed that in numerous threads. A search will yield these discussions as well.

Lastly, your second post was obnoxious and I suspect that was the intention since you were upset that your thread had no responses. Understand, however, that participation on the board does not require that anyone respond to any post. You cannot expect to insult us into responding. That will basically guarantee no one will be interested in engaging with you in a conversation. And logically, why would they? Who chooses to talk to people who talk down to them, mock them or insult them?