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Old 09-25-2003, 05:30 PM
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What about the possibility that some people who can't compete on their own fail to do so because of society issues? Otherwise, you're getting very close to saying that certain races are innately not prepared to succeed, or at least less prepared to succeed than others. Which is sticky. And not a point that I want to argue.

I don't think that anyone can argue that different culture have different expectations when it comes to education, and that each culture needs to work on improving those expectations -- but pressure comes from outside the individual cultures too. For example, I see the idea that "The only way blacks will ever get rich or famous is via entertainment or sports" promoted by whites just as often, if not more, than it is by African-Americans themselves.

As for Rudey's question, if those students are not a product of American culture, then the standards American culture sets up don't apply to them.
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