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Old 06-22-2001, 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by nikki25:
No, I don't believe that any of those subjects can tell me anything about the future. Those would fall under the categories of sorcery and divination in the Bible. I believe that only the Lord God through the utterance of the Holy Spirit can speak to you as well as provide prophetic insight into the unknown.

Here's a Word from the Holy Bible. He that has an ear, let him hear.

In Leviticus 19:26 (NIV), the Lord commanded Moses to speak to the children of Israel saying: 'Do not practice divination or sorcery.

*Note: The Lord wanted the children of Israel to be prosperous and of right relationship with Him as they went into the Promised Land. Each time that divination or sorcery was practiced, the Lord became angered as those people had seen the love of God, but chose to live a lifestyle that God didn't ordain. God is a jealous God. NO other gods should ever come before Him. Who is the god of witchcraft, sorcery, divination? satan. Each time that you seek the counsel of these methods, you are springing forth the very demons of hell.

In Leviticus 18:10, the Lord says:'Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,

*Note: God is telling the children of Israel (and if you are a Christian, you are their descendants), that no one must practice sorcery, interpret omens, nor engage in witchcraft. If you think that some of the people you see are sent by God, read, Deuteronomy 18:14-22 and Jeremiah 23 to see the way to discern if he/she is really sent by God.

Galatians 5: 19-21 states: The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.


*Note: God is saying here that if you choose to live a life that isn't holy, then you will be denied the inheritance of God. That includes everyone of the promises mentioned throughout the Bible as well as the eternal life.

If you'd like to read the Bible online so that you can read portions of God's Word to find out more about what God says about these things, double click on this link: http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/b...sh&version=NIV

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Leviticus 19:26?

King James: "Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times."

NIV: "Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times."

Youngs Literal Translation: "`Ye do not eat with the blood; ye do not enchant, nor observe clouds."

Leviticus 18:10?

"The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs
is thine own nakedness."

Galations 5:19-21?

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


divination: div·i·na·tion (dv-nshn)
n.

1.The art or act of foretelling future events or revealing occult knowledge by means of augury or an alleged supernatural agency.
2.An inspired guess or presentiment. 3.Something that has been divined.

according to this definition all the weathermen who tell you how your week is going to be...sunny shiny and bright or overcast, muggy, and rainy...are going to hell...hmmmmn....i think it goes a bit deeper than you would like to profess...

sorcery: sor·cer·y (sôrs-r)
n.

Use of supernatural power over others through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft.

witch·craft (wchkrft)
n.

1.Magic; sorcery.
2.Wicca.
3.A magical or irresistible influence, attraction, or charm.
http://www.bibles.net/
http://www.internetdynamics.com/pub/vc/bibles.html

what were those great works moses and jesus did? how'd they do it? the prophets foretold all sorts of things and that would put them in this very category you are proclaiming to be wrong...um, i'm not saying they were sorcerers, witches, or anything...i'm just saying you might want to dig a little deeper than the surface of those bible pages...because you have severly contradicted yourself...some of the bible verses you quoted weren't even right...so i don't really understand where you are coming from...whether your misquote was intentional or not...i do not know...but before you try to qualify a position...you might at least want to accurately quote verses...

Matthew 24:24 Matthew 24 Matthew 24:23-25 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

Mark 6:2 Mark 6 Mark 6:1-3 When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed. "Where did this man get these things?" they asked. "What's this wisdom that has been given him, that he even does miracles!

John 10:32 John 10 John 10:31-33 but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

John 10:38 John 10 John 10:37-39 But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 12 1 Corinthians 12:27-29 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 2 Thessalonians 2 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of COUNTERFEIT miracles, signs and wonders...

Joel 2:28 Joel 2 Joel 2:27-29 `And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.

Hebrews 2:4 Hebrews 2 Hebrews 2:3-5 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.


1 Corinthians 12:29 1 Corinthians 12 1 Corinthians 12:28-30 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?

John 14:12 John 14 John 14:11-13 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.


1 Corinthians 12:31 1 Corinthians 12 1 Corinthians 12:30-32 But eagerly desire the greater gifts. And now I will show you the most excellent way.



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