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Originally posted by CalicoDoll
I hope NO ONE takes offense at what I am about to say 
The reality of it is this...for me, when attending school, I didn't see the brothas who were "in school" or in a trade (because college is not for everyone) that were interested in sistas. I am sorry, but that's my experience. So yes, I believe your statistics but success is not always measured by the $100K plus salary one makes.
Why did I date thugs, because that was my reality. I didn't choose my friends based on "what they could do for me in the future $$$" but how they treated me as a person.
My husband is a former thug, but he stepped up before we became married and decided that he wanted to do the right thing and not jeopardize his/mine/family life aanymore, and I give him credit for that. I don't knock anyone for their hustle. Nor do I promote "thug mentality."
I think brickhouse 492 states it eloquently that with a thug, there are risks, however, being with a thug doesn't symbolize that a woman will be physically abused by him (but that's another issue), but yes, there are deadly risks involved with the game.
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I think your indviual life is a great example of change. However let us not decieve ourselves into thinking that will happen all the time. I know thugs that have changed for the better and some that still hustle. But when you said Succesfull black men unfortunatly in our society we judge people by income and possesions. YOU ARE 100% correct money does not make you a success. But unfortunatly that is what our people think of as success. How much paper one has. BTW No offense taken I just love this debate cause there is no right answer it is a person to person thing. Just as every thug is not good, every nerd is not good and every man Black White, Latino, Martian is not good! Judge those by invidual merits not trends.