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I don't think Hootie meant it like that. I think she was trying to say, "if a guy does x, y, and z, what else could he BE but a gentleman?"

This thread makes me laugh -- my daddy's an AKL and the ONLY thing he used to tell me about his fraternity (he thought they'd died off so he was sad to talk about it, until I went to school and found a chapter there!) was that they had etiquette classes once a month, and he'd taught most of them. Which he was very proud of.

I also dated a Kappa Sigma for a little under a year and in their pledge book, they had page after page of what to do in certain situations. Everything from tying a tie to which spoon to use.

Do y'all think it's rude to "teach" guys to do certain things? I was absolutely head over heels for my Kappa Sigma, but in his family the same things weren't important when he was growing up, so we valued different things. I'm very, very used to walking on the building side of the street. Once I explained to him why, I don't think I ever walked on the street side again. I didn't do it nastily, just explained why I did it, and how the tradition started. Is that weird?

I haven't seen anyone mention the staircase thing -- on a small staircase (e.g. one in a house) where only one person can pass at a time, the guy goes up the stairs last and down the stairs first. That way if the girl trips over her skirt (or, more likely today, her heels) she falls into him -- not the rest of the way down to the landing.