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Originally posted by AXPGoBot
Oh, so now we're against pledging at all? What exactly is being meant by pleding to you? Don't get me wrong, I'm against hazing, but you shouldn't just sit around and talk and call that earning your letters. What's so wrong with doing things like team-building activities or other new member functions? I'm not talkinga bout paddling, I'm not talking about being force-fed dog food, but sometimes people fly off the handle and scream HAZING! over the slightest little thing. What's so wrong with team-building activities like scavenger hunts, provided its handled in a mature way, or other functions similar to these? Please. Get over it. Go join Circle K or something like that if you don't feel like earning the privledge of being Greek.
I'm sorry to sound like an ass but very few things piss me off more than people who don't want to have to "pledge" to become Greek. We're not f'ing CLUBS damnit, it's so much more than that. "If you want to get to a dream, you must first pass through the nightmare." Not that I'm saying pledging should be a nightmare, but it should be a challenge, something you can feel proud of that you did, something your class can have pride in that they accomplished together. You can do that without hazing. We're not just clubs, so stop treating it like we are! These is why we're in trouble nationwide, because people just want their letters and to be greek but dont' want to have to do anything for them aside from pay dues. Like I said, if that's what you want, go join something else.
GRRR.
Sorry, this isn't meant to be directed against anyone, but I hate how people are so overly sensative about hazing, insisting that every little thing is wrong wrong wrong. It's wrong to wear pledge pins, it's wrong to be asked to do a class service project, it's wrong to have new members interview actives. ARG!!!! Think about it people, it's just plain silly.
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I COMPLETELY agree with you!! I am so sick of people calling the tiniest challenging thing hazing! The whole idea of "if you have to ask if it's hazing, then it's hazing" is such junk! "Hazing" is something that is seriously dangerous on some level to the people participating. And I'm sorry but if you are dangerously permanently scarred b/c you had to work a little bit to join an organization, then you have more problems than whether or not you're allowed to wear letters. I assume that many GLO's have some kind of test they have to pass to be initiated; is that hazing? Is paying member dues hazing? I'm sorry, but it scarred me a heck of a lot more to pay $500 in 8 weeks than to have a scavenger hunt. Plus, I dunno about you but I always feel much better about accomplishing something that is difficult than something that was handed to me. Example; I went to a leadership training a few weeks ago and I did a high ropes course. On the highest and hardest element, I fell 32feet (I was harnessed so I was ok) but then I got right back up and did it again and I know that it felt sooooo much better to know that it was challenging and I failed but I still accomplished it! That is how your pledge period should be, it should be difficult, it should make you consider why you chose your GLO, it should make you work for something that you want that badly. You can't possibly deny that the times you became closer w/your class is when things got rough and you had to work together. Thats what a family does and that is what you are joining. Do you let anyone who comes around become a member of your real family? No, they have to prove themselves as someone who is a family member. I'm sure any of you who have a sibling-in-law (or someone a sibling is dating seriously), a step parent or a very close family friend know what I mean. If you can't say you are a member of the Dawson family the first day you meet them, and you can't call yourself a member of or wear the letters that tells people you are a part of my family of sisters. Also, on another note, for those of you who are fine w/your members wearing letters but not the crest; why do you think that members shouldn't wear the crest? B/c they don't know the meaning behind it usually and they have no respect for what the crest means? Hmmm, isn't that our argument for why you shouldn't be allowed to wear letters???? Interesting.