I don't get it either. I was out w/ some friends last weekend @ dinner and there was a group of kids (avec parents) sitting out on the patio where we were. I think they were in town w/some sort of swim meet or something. Anyways, these kids were so damn loud. All three of us kept looking over w/ the evil eye hoping the parents would notice and do something about it. It wouldn't have been so bad but these kids were somewhere between 9 and 11 and therefore old enough to know better. I actually lost my appetite over them. I am amazed at the number of times I've been run over by some snot nosed little brat at Target, the mall, or wherever. Or been unable to think due to some fit a brat is throwing over some plastic piece of sh*t. One of my friends has a summer job taking care of 2 girls (the parents are country-clubber types and NEVER home). The six year old is absolutely the devil. She called her own number one night to record the 6 year old screaming. It was awful. I think I won't ever have kids because if mine ever tried to pull a stunt like that I'd lose it!