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Educated, I can see how you would feel that way. But did you consider that we felt that DOC had turned their backs on us by participating in this tv show? Their website, their actions, and their attitudes don't appear to point towards them trying to show anything besides the stereotypes of Greek life. My interactions with them and their group actions (not just Casey and Matt, but all of them) have all served as evidence towards one opinion- DOC loves being that stereotype.
I know that they are close, and they have an awesome brotherhood...but they have never had a problem with being the party fraternity, and they've always enjoyed that their local status afforded them the independence to not answer to an authoritative/influential section of their organization. That's fine, I'm more than happy for them if that's what they want.
But I don't think it's reasonable to expect any other Greeks to give them unquestioning, unwavering support in light of all the facts involved in this situation. I pledged to love my sisters unconditionally- not a group of guys who I personally feel have made a mockery of of our already fragile Greek system at UCSC. They certainly haven't made the effort to support or even be polite to us- I don't think it would be fair for them to expect in return what they don't give out.
But here's my real question...Educated, you've made a big point about how little DOC cares about what others think of them, especially UCSC. And you've also pointed out that they don't care about their disaffiliation from campus, and they don't care what people think about their mtv involvement. So why do you care so much? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm honestly curious. I know that I'm arguing these (often moot) points because they are very real to me. The effects of their actions have been felt by myself and my sorority, and I'm sure this will only increase as these next couple months roll by.
But does DOC really need someone to stand up for the honor that they themselves have disavowed? While I recognize that you have personal knowledge regarding DOC, you're also on this thread arguing points that you really know little about. Being involved in Greek life gives you a range of experiences, emotions, and information that you just aren't privy to. And, your comments have indicated that you don't really care about Greek attitudes beyond those of DOC. So why are you pushing these uneducated views?
If you honestly want to learn more, this is a great place to do so. But you're not going to get much support from people when you try to tell us how we should or should not feel, or when you tell us that aspects of our organization are pointless things that we just pay for because someone tells us to. You know nothing about these things- and that will be quickly pointed out every time you make such a comment. Again, I'm not trying to start an argument, I really do wonder what your motivations are...and I wonder how open minded you care to be about all these things you haven't experienced.
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