much respect...
i am also wondering what happened to doggystyle82's response. both the one that i replied to earlier and the one that he subsequently replied to as well. doggystyle82 if you would like to continue our discussion via email i am more than open to that...my email address is: sdchrismon@hotmail.com. i think that you have some interesting thoughts and i am always open to hearing other viewpoints. please feel free to email me. i am very welcome to all opinions those i agree with and those i don't. i only ask that we be respectful of one another as we engage in intellectual conversation.
what i mean when i say how does one group justify their oppressive actions against another group? i am basically stating...how do we as black people justify our anger with racists...when we also use racial epithets, derogatory speech, and occasionally resort to violence against other groups who are also oppressed in our country.
to oppress another group does not necessarily mean that we physically, monitarily, or socially hold them down. but it is clear that excessive exposures of oppressive speech can affect an individual. take for example internalized racism. i am sure many of you understand this concept but i will give you my understanding of it.
internalized racism occurs when one is consistently exposed to racist expression and then begins to believe that these things are true. in turn not only do they believe these things but express them to others. we often point out those who have extreme cases of internalized racism when we discuss people like Ward Connerly. i know people at my university who suffer from internalized racism. one gentleman in particular often says that, "its okay if white people calls us niggers because thats what we are...and its their world anyway." he also says things such as, "black women are stupid." and "black men need white men to help them better themselves" clearly this is a case of internalized racism to an extreme. but it is an example.
my main point and maybe this will be a better restating...is hate and the act of hating the same when it is a person of color doing it to other oppressed groups as it is when a white person does it to oppressed group? do we find ourselves more "tolerant" of certain kinds of hate speech because we find the group either "morally" irresposible or have been affected by their actions against us?
and if this is the case...how can we say to white supremacists who clearly from their dogma finds us, as black people, "morally" irresponsible and due to their beliefs that such things as civil rights and affirmative action have subsequently "affected" them in attaining "their jobs" (clearly i am spouting their rhetoric)...that they are wrong for their hate?
this thread was not just about homosexuality. which of course is the hot button issue and has been wildly run with. but what about the hate that we spit out against women and against other races? can we justify our intolerance for hate when it is white on black...but we are tolerant when it is black on others.
that is my thought process.
i would like to reiterate again that i am in no way trying to as our elequent brother doggystyle82 stated trying to initialize the "thought police". never that. i too have read 1984 and other books like it. i am a strong believer in free speech. as a political science major and a registered member of the ACLU i am extremely pro-free speech.
i may not agree with what folx say. but i do support them in their right to say it. i just prefer to have open respectful communication between two differing groups. i believe that once we have that all things can be talked out.
in any case...this is a post for the moderators. i do not suspect to know your minds nor how you may run the thread. but if you deem it necessary to lock the thread then i understand. my hope is that we can continue to have some intellectual discussion and keep trying to understand one another one word at a time. thanks.
peace and thank you,
lastpoet
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