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Originally posted by DeltAlum
AA aside, our experience is that if you are an excellent student, with a well rounded HS career in terms of extracurriculars, student government, and have good test scores, etc., the chances are pretty good you'll be accepted.
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Which is why I have a hard time feeling sorry for Gratz and Hammacher (sp?). They were, at best,
mediocre students who felt as if admission to their state flagship university, which just happens to be one of the top schools in the nation, was owed to them. Reading interviews with Jennifer Gratz, I don't feel any pity or sympathy for her at all--she wasn't reasonable with her college choices! I doubt kids from Virginia, however good they are, don't bank on getting into UVa to the point where it's the only school they applied. That was the equivalent of what she did.
The moral of this story should be that college admission is not owed to anyone--especially when it involves the elite schools. I know minority 4.0/1600/valedictorians with excellent activities who were rejected from Harvard/Brown/MIT/Stanford. At good schools, there's not enough room to let in the best kids by numbers alone. The review has to be holistic to provide the best student bodies possible.
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Originally posted by AggieAXO:Many people knew it was probably due to AA and it caused some rift in our senior class. AA became a big topic of conversation among my senior class and it was not seen in a positive light.
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This reminds me of the general pettiness which has infiltrated college admissions--I know it's gotten worse today. I know that when I, who was in the top 1% of my graduating class, with excellent SAT scores and activities, was accepted to my Ivy League college, the AA talk happened immediately--to the point where people were trying to find out my family income, scores, and GPA, in really underhanded ways. I had people--allegedly friends--tell me I got in just because I was a student of color and was dependent on a scholarship. Let's just say I don't talk to those people anymore. So, if you are a student of color
regardess of your academic performance, socioeconomic status, or extracurricular activities, you will get the affirmative action excuse hurled at you. There really wasn't a point to this hijack, but I thought it was important that I mention this.