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Also, when you try to do statistics as to who is "greek"- what constitutes greek? Just NPC, NIC, NPHC type groups? I noticed in the listing with the President's and their orgs, Phi Alpha Delta is mentioned for several of them... However, as a Phi Alpha Delta, I do not consider Phi Alpha Delta to be anything like a "traditionally" greek group. ... If I was just a Phi Alpha Delta, I would not consider myself greek. Also, just cause I was in Phi Eta Sigma as a freshman (along with about 500 other freshman on my campus) -would that make you greek?
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Sorry Danielle I don't understand
As far as I thought someone who was Greek was a member of a Greek Letter Organisation and that was the definition. The GreekChat bulletin board has had debate before over the merits of service, and professional (etc) versus social Greek Letter Orgs and posters seemed to reach a consensus that if non-social fraternities/sororities seemed "better" to someone it was a reflection of how active that group was on campus in general campus life, greek activities, philanthropy etc and the more a (for example) professional GLO did the more validity it naturally carried as a Greek group. It saddens me that someone questions whether they are "more Greek"

than the next person simply because
their Greek Letter org is a member of say the NPC or NIC rather than the NPHC or Professional Fraternity Organisation or whatever?
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I noticed in the listing with the President's and their orgs, Phi Alpha Delta is mentioned for several of them...
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That's because I created the list based on the The North-American Interfraternity Conference list (which only included their members) extending it to - correctly so far as I thought - include Presidents who were members of other fraternities which didn't happen to be members of NIC, such as APO or PAD.