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Old 05-05-2003, 11:59 AM
decadence decadence is offline
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Unhappy At the risk of trying to reason with the unreasonable

RIGHT. As some posters here namely Hoosier have a problem understanding certain things I'll try to explain try to explain clearly.
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Originally posted by "Hoosier" : If your web page or profile lists a GLO, I would assume you to be a member, but that's not the case here for Richard/Decadance. I frequently post GLO news items I find with "Google News". I throw them up against the wall, and see what sticks or attracts responses.
My username for the record is spelt DecadEnce. Unsurprising you erred though, as I see from the rest of your comments that you have a problem reading. As for my profile/web page "listing a GLO" as you put it, neither my GC profile nor a sig. for my posts has contained the name of ANY fraternity EVER. As for the web page I created, it clearly indicates [in large pretty colours] the words "interest group”, plus text like: "XYZ is the fraternity we hope to affiliate to", "unable to declare any affiliation until granted a charter" etc etc. Bar adding a streaming audio file to the site with my voice on it shouting "WE ARE AN INTEREST GROUP NOT YET CHARTERED TO ANY FRATERNITY" I don’t see what more I could do!! I would have thought those words would make it clear it was NOT a chapter of a fraternity... to all but the least sentient of people?
As for me "having more time than you", Hoosier; while I'm not quite sure how you arrive at that conclusion, it's hard to see how anyone could period, when such a large proportion of your time is clearly devoted to filling up this board with your relentless dirge.
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Originally posted by bellauwood2: "Doh! If you learned to read, the sources are Channel 8 news, The Houston Chronicle, and The Associated Press...all of which sound fairly legitimate to me."
In reference to the rest of the posters here defending his contemptible acts, leaving aside the fact "bellauwood2" is a new member with only one post ever - causing me to wonder how close that poster's logged IP address might be to certain others in this thread... (the text by the way of the post is a cut and paste of the one made by 'Cream' earlier)... I CAN read, I have learnt thank you. Conversely, it seems Hoosier either cannot or will not. The veracity of a news story is in no way related to how many papers in happens to be syndicated through. This is leaving aside exactly how irrelevant the story was to this forum which I'll spell out a little more later for 'certain people'.
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Originally posted by "Hoosier": I frequently post GLO news items I find with "Google News". I throw them up against the wall, and see what sticks or attracts responses.
Do you now... GLO stands for "Greek Letter Organisation" those are fraternities or sororities named with Greek Letters - the clue is in the name. Contrary to what you seem to think, "Corps of Cadets" is NOT a fraternity, NOT a sorority, is NOT named with Greek letters, has NOTHING to do with greek life, is therefore WHOLLY inappropriate for Greekchat and therefore (in my opinion and clearly others’ too) should NOT be here. As for your "throwing them up against the wall" drivel, to paraphrase that, would be to say "I inflame, stir up and cause trouble, incite contention". Sad. Pretty much ALL you do is post these news items.
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Originally posted by Rudey: Listen this section is about risk management, so obviously articles on hazing that shed a negative light on fraternities will appear here.
Thanks, I know what the section is for Rudey. I utterly fail to see how a news article which has nothing to do with any fraternity whatsoever could possibly manage to 'shed negative light on fraternities'?
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Originally posted by KSig RC: quoted for the "stick to the subject at hand" crew - seriously, why the hell did this become a thread about a Law School fraternity? Stay on topic - and guess what? HAZING IS THE TOPIC (read the topline boss)
Re HAZING being the topic, Hazing is the subtopic, the topic of the entire BOARD is Greek Letter ORG's. On the thread mentioning a Law fraternity, I'll try to explain KsigRC. I'm pretty much incandescent with rage about this. "Hoosier", in lieu of any actual justification for his behaviour went off in search of something - anything - to say. After looking at my GC profile (it contains a link to a site I created for the interest group I’m part of – you probably heard me talk about it in other posts unlike Hoosier who no doubt generally doesn’t read much of GC (?) having apparent little interest in promoting, enjoying or furthering Greek Life) Hoosier desparately attempted to bring a fraternity into this thread and suggest I claimed membership of it, in a laughable attempt to attack me and somehow justify something, succeeding only in embarrassing himself by ignoring the words interest group, not a member of XYZ etc etc which are all in nice big letters on the pages. In any case, Hoosier doesn’t only post this stuff in the Risk Management forum, the Greek Life forum is OFTEN subjected to it as well. Despite complaints made.
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Originally posted by "Hoosier": Not every site is... Some are just for fun.
And so we finally reach the crux of your nasty persistent discrediting-attempt greek smear campaign do we? "FUN"? Is this why you subject us to all this?? Posting in excess of 450 items over time since only Jan 2002 all to subvert Greek life (!!!), ignoring the wishes of the vast majority here. Get a kick out of it huh?
Still, I don't expect a reply; feel free to "dismiss me as a hyper liberal - whatever you said" I'm a big boy and can take it. Perhaps if and when you emotionally mature you might cease to get malicious enjoyment from trying to fill a forum dedicated TO and FOR greeks with information negative to greek life - much of which as has been said isn't even Greek info in the first place.
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Originally posted by Tom Earp: That is why in the middle of the 10:00 news I got out of bed and emailed the biggest TV station in K. C. Metro about a Item on another Fraternity other than mine and took them to task!
Tom Earp, your passion and admiration for greek life is not in question. Your devotion and hard work to the Greek community is nothing but admired. Despite how you may disagree with my calling Hoosier up on all of this, I still have a lot of respect for you and have no venom or bad feeling toward you. Conversely, Hoosier sadly, does not follow fraternity news and fraternity life with the same noble ideals and genuine interest in them as you so clearly do. My opinion of you Tom, is that you are a shining example of what a lifelong member of a fraternity should be - your passion for LXA not diminished by time, and a credit to your organisation now, as before. Hoosier meanwhile just seems to be a pustule on the face of this messageboard.
His entire demeanour toward fraternities it seems is animosity - evidenced BY an utter inability to explain why (without sidetracking into details about how I’m a member of a GLO (complete drivel, no webpage said anything of the sort) and, incoherent rambling about how that GLO to which he incorrectly ascribes me has an alumni lawyer he doesn't like... yawn) he posts this stuff over and over and over. In failing to respond, perhaps Hoosier feels it’s better for people to assume him an idiot than to open his mouth and remove all doubt? Perhaps that’s why he pretty much never actually comes out with a view on a fraternity beyond parasitically scanning the net for dirt in an attempt to "contribute". Then again maybe he thinks it is better not to participate in arguments in which he is ill equipped to defend himself?
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Originally posted by Rudey: Those that did not enjoy the source, can say so but the thread is not about the source. One post would have been sufficient to inform people (if they were unable to determine something so blatant).
Rudey, the thread is not about the source per se. The reason people mentioned the source at all is because it is so 'trashy' and so, questionable. Moreover, the thread diversified into discussion on how the post was not remotely anything to do with Greek life anyway. Hoosier attempted to bring a 100% unrelated fraternity into this, but the fundamental topic the thread IS centring around is not simply one isolated post of an article (however irrelevant) but a discussion on exactly WHY Hoosier is choosing to do this generally – in other words his posts in general not this one thread. As yet no real response from him.

We all know why **I'm** here on GC. A clear passion for the ideals of greek life, trying to start my own interest group which will hopefully petition for a chapter of an international, I ask for help with some issues, debate other issues, I enthusiastically offer help whenever I can to other GC'ers on any subjects which I am qualified to do so, et cetera. In other words I have a genuine and honest interest in what the messageboard is about. Sadly it seems to be all too clear why Hoosier is here too .
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Originally posted by Rudey: If you have a problem with a post, why not find detail how the poster is violating Greekchat rules and PM the mod?
IT IS THE PATTERN not a single example which we are talking about. All "Hoosier" does is post this. It's no surprise there is discussion about this.
Again, the rules of GC are not many. GC is considered a forum for adults not children and thus I imagine it is hoped posters use the forum in good faith and respect others... as opposed to coming on purely to cause trouble and never managing to say anything positive about GLOs in the space of sixteen months. I mean, if you intrinsically don't LIKE fraternities or sororities why be a member of a group (online or otherwise) where you will end up hanging around people who're in them? Difficult to believe you do like them if this is how you communicate about them.

There’s a world of difference between say James or Ilovemyglo (first two GC’ers I just thought of ) posting, with a tinge of sadness, a negative story they have come across about a fraternity, and someone else who solely does that without ever doing anything else. In light, of that not being their (James'/ IlovemyGLO'/random member's) raison d etre. Posting story after story without ever doing anything else and doing it all with a smile on your lips and a song in your heart, in a wholescale directed effort to discredit greek life is just not the same ballpark.

As for your suggestion of PM'ing the mods or administrators, that I guess is an option open to me yes. Thank you. As a mere member, it is up to the moderators what they do with my opinion, everything is at their discretion. I wanted to give Hoosier a chance to respond, in seek of an explanation for his reprehensible conduct. To date he has failed to give one. It’s my opinion that Hoosier threatens the integrity of this online community, deliberately tries to cause trouble and offence, albeit in a more insidious and less obvious way than others upon whom the moderators and administrators have taken action upon in the past. I may act on your suggestion.

Feedback welcome.

-- Decadence.

Last edited by decadence; 05-05-2003 at 12:06 PM.
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