[librasoul22]

Originally posted by Eclipse
Doggy, As what some folks would call a conservative Christian (but not quite Republican, but that's a nother story!) I agree with a lot of what you said, but here's my issue.

You say thing like "yeah, I fornicate, but I am a sinner saved by grace." How is that any different from someone "struggling" with homosexuality?

You also say, "If you are going to keep celebrating and living a homosexual life (or other sinful life) it is obvious that no rebirth has taken place. " Couldn't someone say the same thing about someone who is unmarried and "celebrating and living" and actively heterosexual life (i.e. fornicating?) Are you celebrating sin when you come on here and post things about the "OWT" things that you and your bruhs do? Does that mean that you are not truly born again?

Third point I'm gong to bring up, you say "A CHURCH cannot BAPTIZE an ABOMINATION. BAPTISM is the ceremonial cleansing of sins from a past life for the BORN AGAIN BELIEVER to live in Christ." First of all, I don't believe that people are abominations. The things we do, yes, are, but not the person. Jesus never asked us to get ourselves right before he would save us. He just asked that we admit that we are sinners and that only His blood can wash us clean. Repentace, a profession of faith and belief are needed for salvation. If we, as Christians, get in the business of saying that folks can't give their life to Christ because of their sin, we are in a heap o' trouble! Does this mean that the homeless alcoholic who had a drink last night can get baptized? Does this mean that the gang banger who was out doing what ever on Saturday, smelling like reefer (do they still call it that or am I showing my age?) on Sunday morning can't get baptized?

You put it way more eloquently than I ever could have.