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A decent model to follow might be to think this: When you want to have children, get married.
Otherwise, is some ways, its kind of like keeping score, the ultimate form of social validation. I have seen girls in despair that they won't get a candle pass or won't get that ring before the graduate or shortly after.
Its as if the ring is a goal in and of itself. There are girls on this site not even into their mid twenties that have had 2 rings given to them (two engagements) theere might even be a third. As bad as Ross on friends.
I have an intellectual understanding of the pressure that girls put on themselves, especialy when we consier the peer pressure around them . . . but that is probably a bad reason to get married or engaged.
So, when you are ready for kids you get married. What else is there to talk about?
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