[Kevin]

I think it's over for us.. Essentially what it took was for a lot of the founding guys to graduate. It's like basically any chapter and their seniors who are ex-officers. They always want to do things the way they "used to be done". That stuff and those attitudes held us back for awhile. I think we're coming back strong with that attitude gone though.

It's also because many people join with the goal of getting that charter. Once they get it they feel like they've gotten what they wanted out of the fraternity experience.