Actually I guess I am just confused and aggravated when i speak to greeks who act like gang bangers...like if you weren't "jumped in" than you aren't respected. I have a greek home girl who always says that she would give love to her sorors in terms of saying hi and bye to them, because they were her sorors but she would never feel no real bond with them if they didn't come through the "right" way. I have seen girls shunned and totally treated wrong because they were considered paper...i have seen the hurt on peoples faces when someone comes up to them and hugs them for being greek and than immediately asked them what school they pledged at and if they say they went through grad, they get "oh" like pledging grad is a disease. On the flip side, I see interests willing to risk their lives just to ensure no one calls them "paper". For all the stories you hear about orgs getting sued, and all the chapters that get suspended for years on the yard you would think this would make people think twice about beating history into someone's head but it doesn't...it's hard for me to see that initiation is more than wood, when it seems like all the greeks i know are "wood" crazy...Like i said I am all for going through a process and working hard for your letters, there simply has to be a better way than the current way. I was also dating this guy in college that was on line for xyz fraternity and that boy came home every night hurt from a beat down, what is the purpose of this? When i lived on campus the GLO's use to have their initiates run through our campus naked singing their fraternity hymn...what is the point of that? How is beating my ass or making me humilate myself in public going to make me love your organization any more than i would going through in another way?